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  • This shop is great
    but that shop is bad
    This shop is lame
    but that shop is rad

    It all sound the same
    it all sound the same

    BLB, TFG
    which one is the right shop for me?
    Condor, Evans, Cycle Surgery,
    Tell me what's the right shop for me?

    It all sound the same
    It all sound the same
    Honestly, it all sound the same.

  • I remember when folk from Wigan wrote decent songs. Before they went solo, and became shit.

  • Bittersweet TFG?

  • I was into Formby way before he started hanging round lamp-posts.

  • me too

    not like all these Johnny come ukelatelys

  • This shop is great.

    But that shop is bad.

    However that shop have great stuff.

    Honestly it all sound the same.

    You do talk a lot of shit, Ed. There's very little difference between Evans and Cycle Surgery, to be sure, but there are significant differences between the ranges stocked by smaller, more local or specialised shops. Between BLB, TFG, Condor, Brixton Cycles, Bon Velo and the now-departed Velorution (to pick just a few examples) there are significant differences in the range and character of goods on offer. I'd go into any of them to get a replacement puncture repair kit, but only some of them are worthy my time to browse in.

  • Gok Wan should front a new reality TV bike show, with Mary Portas as roving reporter. Both have impeccable taste and so could guide us through the selection-minefield. The Hairy Bikers could slum it under pedal power and cook stodgy cakes, while Brix Smith-Start whines about once being the guitarist with The Fall, in between explaining her reasons for being prone to daft elaborate dressing, sticking with 'Smith' as the prefix to her continued double-barrelled surname despite divorce from the great Mark E Smith years ago, and her obsession with social-climbing. Viewing figures would be crap, and Channel 5 would never recover. Evans would prevail, like we all feared it would. A royal new-media back-slap.

  • But there are significant differences between the ranges stocked by smaller, more local or specialised shops. Between BLB, TFG, Condor, Brixton Cycles, Bon Velo and the now-departed Velorution (to pick just a few examples) there are significant differences in the range and character of goods on offer.

    The Elitism is what they have in common.

  • The Elitism is what they have in common.

    I'd disagree with that - I get a much friendly, not looking down their nose, non-patronising welcome in Condor than I do in most Evans I have ever been too.

  • When I said elitism, I did not meant it in a negative viewpoint.

  • what?

  • he's part of the elite, just undercover at Evans :)

  • The Elitism is what they have in common.

    Really, no. What they have in common is that they offer some individuality, some personality. In some cases, that character might be elitist, but mostly it's just distinct.

    It's a bit like bookshops. If you know exactly what you want, you could buy cheaply from the web. But a local bookshop will make its own selection from the huge variety out there. If you don't find the choices/personality of a particular bookshop helpful or to your taste, then browsing the shelves will be confusing or boring and a waste of time. Find a bookshop that matches your own preferences and needs and it'll be a constant source of pleasant surprises.

    Condor doesn't offer what I want (beyond the basic supplies that I could buy anywhere); for example, there is absolutely no overlap between the small portion of Rapha's stock that I might be interested in and that available in Condor. I also do not currently ride anything geared or anything more modern than 1981, so it doesn't really suit me. Never said it doesn't work for other people. Sounds like Bodieanddoyle has a permanent party going on in there.

  • in my experience TFG are great. ordered a frameset from them last year. they called me to let me know they didnt have the colour i wanted, when i missed their call, they wrote me a letter of apology! i ordered a different colour, they emailed me full tracking details. it arrived the next day.
    i also had a wheel built by them, which is without a doubt the best wheelbuild ive ever had. spoke tension is off the charts.
    rad.

  • I've been in Condor once.

    Bought a crankset for cheapest price I could find anywhere (incl. online)

    £50 cheaper than TF.

    csb.

  • Wowzah!
    Just lookin through the forum and seemed to have stirred up a few emotions on this thread!

    1x what a cunt
    1x harden the fuck up
    1x idiotic customer that didn't do research!

    Jesus, lame or what.

    I got crappy service from the bloke upstairs.
    Some might find that the "face of the shop"?
    I've got some bits in the past from downstairs and it's been ok. (apart from when they didn't have any 700cc inner tubes in stock!!!)

    It's no biggie. IMHO I thought service was shitty.
    As I gather from some of the more evangelical replies to my (if I say so myself witty but dull) original post. Its just too much to bare for some of you folks TOTM?

    Diddums

    It's all about the tribes folks. Condor vs tfg. Both cater to their own market. So labling one "all the gear but no idea" over the other is a bit hypocritical.
    Mamil vs hipster??

    But good service - I know where ill go...

    In my honest opinion...

    did you let them know how disgusted you were that they weren't offering any 700c or did you mutter quietly under your breath and keep calm and carry on ?

  • I've been in Condor once.

    Bought a crankset for cheapest price I could find anywhere (incl. online)

    £50 cheaper than TF.

    csb.

    BUT a Condor van almost killed me today when reversing into the cycle lane on Farringdon Road

    So the conclusion is, Tokyo Fixed is more expensive, but won't might not run you over.

  • Condor doesn't offer what I want (beyond the basic supplies that I could buy anywhere); for example, there is absolutely no overlap between the small portion of Rapha's stock that I might be interested in and that available in Condor. I also do not currently ride anything geared or anything more modern than 1981, so it doesn't really suit me. Never said it doesn't work for other people. Sounds like Bodieanddoyle has a permanent party going on in there.

    My geared bikes a 1980 holdsworth with neuvo record.
    Condors own brand long drop brakes are pretty good.

  • in my experience TFG are great. ordered a frameset from them last year. they called me to let me know they didnt have the colour i wanted, when i missed their call, they wrote me a letter of apology! i ordered a different colour, they emailed me full tracking details. it arrived the next day.
    i also had a wheel built by them, which is without a doubt the best wheelbuild ive ever had. spoke tension is off the charts.
    rad.

    spoke tension should not be off the charts
    it should be within given tolerances

    like this

    or this

    most definately on the charts

  • ^thought you were mdcc_tester there for a sec

  • we all have to aspire to something

    • ihavenoideawhatthosethingmeaniwasjokez*
  • did you let them know how disgusted you were that they weren't offering any 700c or did you mutter quietly under your breath and keep calm and carry on ?

    um, your point is?

    since they didnt have any 700cc in stock - i said ok thanks anyway for looking and got some from CC on the way home.

    is that ok with you?

  • The other week I went in and asked the 10 year old virgin upstairs...

    Hi do you have swrve shorts?

    (Eventually)

    no.

    How about vittoria 1976 shoes?

    no.

    All without looking up from texting on his mobile.
    Little twat, I should have walked out with a bike - he wouldnt have noticed.

    Condor or moquito for me.

    One does wonder, with the only posts from this account slagging off Tokyo Fixed, Monkeyspaw are you even genuine?

  • One does wonder, with the only posts from this account slagging off Tokyo Fixed, Monkeyspaw are you even genuine?

    what?
    oh get a life.
    my first post was just agreeing with some other chap who said he had bad service. so that makes your point totally moot anyway.

    as for being genuine - yes, i am a real monkeys paw severed just before the wrist. thats why i type so slowly. you see i have to bounce on by bloody stump and land on the appropriate key then roll off the keyboard and go again.

    does that answer your question?

  • ^evans marketing dept.

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