New Charge line-up

£1200 for the Juicer does seem somewhat optimistic.

Saddle is a fugly and I know it's wrong but I quite like the rest of the bike.

I think the whole thing is shockingly bad, and I like loud colour schemes!

£1200 for the Juicer does seem somewhat optimistic.

The irony is that the Bob Jackson Audax I got for my father cost the more or less the same, but with full Campag Centaur Alloy groupset.

The mixer remains one of the best Hybrid/commuter bikes on the market. Looks so clean for a bike with a decent gear range and disc brakes (like the routing for the rear brake and its positioning). The juicer high looks like a nice package too.

brick lane. it's full of fixie-pricks and fashion victims

The mixer remains one of the best Hybrid/commuter bikes on the market. Looks so clean for a bike with a decent gear range and disc brakes (like the routing for the rear brake and its positioning). The juicer high looks like a nice package too.

and eccentric bb too, best way to keep your chain tensioned (at least that what I think).

the suited doorman looks like a baddie from a vintage james bond movie.

sorry if i missed something.

The irony is that the Bob Jackson Audax I got for my father cost the more or less the same, but with full Campag Centaur Alloy groupset.

That bike is beautiful, soooooooooo nice, if I built it I don't think i'd be able to just give it to my dad lol!

and eccentric bb too, best way to keep your chain tensioned (at least that what I think).

Eccentric hubs are pretty awesome to, my flatmate has the white industries one, its pimpin yo.

The mixer remains one of the best Hybrid/commuter bikes on the market. Looks so clean for a bike with a decent gear range and disc brakes (like the routing for the rear brake and its positioning). The juicer high looks like a nice package too.

I agree its a good looking machine, but not worth it at 900 quid though - plenty of better equipped bikes out there running alfines and discs for way less

charge barf

I think the whole thing is shockingly bad, and I like loud colour schemes!

That's that machine damned to eternity, then. ;)

The Juicer seems to be priced around the same as similarly specced bikes from other brands.

and eccentric bb too, best way to keep your chain tensioned (at least that what I think).

Depends on the quality I think. TBH if you are not running disc brakes, track ends/horizontal drop-outs are my favourate. I've read alot about squeaking developing. I fecking hate phantom squeaks.

I agree its a good looking machine, but not worth it at 900 quid though - plenty of better equipped bikes out there running alfines and discs for way less

I'd be willing to pay a little bit over the odds for the nice geo of the Tange prestige frame if I were a OTP kinda guy.

I set it up with midge bars and a bar end shifter though. Currently rocking that set-up on my cycloX commuter and offers a great hand position for every situation (fantastic fun to ride in the drops on windy trails).

they all look shit, and cost too much money.

that £1200 juicer is a joke.

Charge will do very well out of these shit-wagons.

and eccentric bb too, best way to keep your chain tensioned (at least that what I think).

why do you think so?

shit-wagons.

ha!

why do you think so?

I'm assuming because of the disc brakes. Means you dont need to adjust the caliper every time you adjust the wheel. You can also raise and lower you BB (if its in the middle horizontaly), not sure how noticable that really is though.

I'm assuming because of the disc brakes. Means you dont need to adjust the caliper every time you adjust the wheel. You can also raise and lower you BB (if its in the middle horizontaly), not sure how noticable that really is though.

The movement of the BB was a hidden benefit to me when I had one and allowed fine tuning of BB height. Although the difference was small admittedly.

I'm with you though, if not using discs then track ends for me every time (light, reliable, least complex and look the best)

Is the Charge Juicer targeted at over-the-hill hipsters who want to take up road biking? http://bikefag.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/hipster-road-biking/

The movement of the BB was a hidden benefit to me when I had one and allowed fine tuning of BB height. Although the difference was small admittedly.

I'm with you though, if not using discs then track ends for me every time (light, reliable, least complex and look the best)

A EBB also makes life easier with bikes/frames that can be run with or without a rear mech. Because you dont need to re-aline the rear mech each time you remove the rear wheel. Vassago had a neat solution to this though. A separate mech hanger that threads onto the rear axle and into the track end in the same way a chain tug does. Means the mech is always alined yet the bike look cleaner when running it single speed.
I've gone for the simple slotted disc caliper mounts for my SS offroad build but then as its a belt drive I'm hoping not to have to adjust tension as the belt should'nt stretch (special chain tugs should insure that the wheel sits in the same spot after removal).

Is the Charge Juicer targeted at over-the-hill hipsters who want to take up road biking? http://bikefag.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/hipster-road-biking/

utter genius

hangs head in shame

and we wonder why the rest of the world thinks we are eccentric alchoholics.

as bicycles go, that is fucking, fucking ugly.

Charge seem to have the Anti-porn market covered kthnxbai