Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

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I've narrowed my wish list down.

Pro Team thermal bibshorts.
knee, and arm warmers.
Merino wesh base layer.
Thick short sleeved jersey.

Do Rapha have a short sleeved version of the winter jersey?

No, because then it would be a summer jersey??????

Got to be the Gabba if you want something like that?

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These are moar Rapha...

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I am not about to take scissors to something that cost me over £200!

http://www.rapha.cc/pro-team-race-cape

The sleeves have a reflective trim above the elbow, which is finished with a bonded seam so you can cut off the sleeves for racing in wet but warm conditions. The Race Cape folds down small enough to fit into a Pro Team Jersey pocket.

Do Rapha have a short sleeved version of the winter jersey?

The Classic jersey is thick 'sportswool' and with armwarmers and a merino baselayer it's good ~ 12* for me.

The Classic jersey is thick 'sportswool' and with armwarmers and a merino baselayer it's good ~ 12* for me.

I'm looking at 8 - 12C.

I suppose I should pick a nice Gilet. The brevet jersey + gilet would be nice. Pricey though.

I was going to say, below 12* it's time for a gilet.

...then below that it's long sleeve Classic jersey, windstopper baselayer (Rose rather than Rapha) and a gilet – the best a man can get

Mrs. Pharoah bought me a brevet jersey in the sale as a gift. It indeed seems thicker than the other jerseys. If you sell the pink bit the cost becomes a little more palatable.

I quite like the pink gillet

I was going to say, below 12* it's time for a gilet.

...then below that it's long sleeve Classic jersey, windstopper baselayer (Rose rather than Rapha) and a gilet – the best a man can get

I have a specific ride in mind. I'll be carrying a packable rain jacket. I think maybe a warmer base-layer than the merino mesh. Is the most versitile way to go.

I have a gore windproof T-shirt. Its an amazing item to have. But I dont like wearing it on long rides. Its simply too windproof.

I have a thick, soft, and nicely 'race fitted' soft shell for cold stuff. But once you have it on your screwed if it warms up.

I quite like the pink gillet

Mrs. Pharoah loves the flouro pink gilet, I think this is the reason she bought me the jersey. I haven't sold it yet, am divided over this.

I too like the pink gilet.

^^^ Good arm warmers, regular merino baselayer, sportswool jersey and a light gilet. With the softshell/racecape in the back pocket?

or wear a summer/regular jersey under your winter jersey and forget the gilet.

Anyone know if the Nanoflex are better tha Rapha's arm warmers? And sizing wise?

Im a M in Raphas, whats sizae for castelli? L?

I bought some nano flex armwarmers recently, my old ones being a bit tired- and lo! The weather got better, so I have no idea- soz.

IME the Nanoflex arm warmers are very good, but I've never tried Waffa warmers, so I couldn't say how they compare. On sizing, I'm a Waffa M and a Castelli L, so that sizing guide would work for me.

Rapha ones are crap and overpriced IMO

Nice 1 L it is then, need some black warmers for winter/wet months and to go with the gabba...

Rapha ones are crap and overpriced IMO

Dont have anything to compare to, but yeah overpriced fo sho.

Standard Rapha armwarmers aren't great but I love the merino ones.

^^^ Good arm warmers, regular merino baselayer, sportswool jersey and a light gilet. With the softshell/racecape in the back pocket?.

Exactly.
With the thermal pro team bibs and some knee warmers.

Although I have a Montane rain jacket that packs down to the size of a plum, and is mad waterproof. Sorry its not wapha.

Anyone know if the Nanoflex are better tha Rapha's arm warmers? And sizing wise?

Im a M in Raphas, whats sizae for castelli? L?

Boast post. But my arms are nearly as thick as my legs. Pretty sure my current ones are Endura in a large, and I cant bend my arms in them.

I was thinking of trying the merino arm warmers to see if they had more stretch.

Although I have a Montane rain jacket that packs down to the size of a plum, and is mad waterproof. Sorry its not wapha.

How is it for breathability?

Boast post. But my arms are nearly as thick as my legs. Pretty sure my current ones are Endura in a large, and I cant bend my arms in them.

Better cut up some 3/4 bib tights and use them as arm warmers....

How is it for breathability?

Not bad. Its the sort of thing you chuck on for a downpour. So its not really designed with breathability at the top of the list. Its also not bike specific. So its probably too short at the back for normal heighted cyclists. Packs so small I keep losing it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZbcLR5fNDMs/TnCX_IAt7PI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0S7Z-5QEmtc/s1600/extra+layers.JPG

Better cut up some 3/4 bib tights and use them as arm warmers....

Ha.
KNee warmers would do. they're only short.

Standard Rapha armwarmers aren't great but I love the merino ones.

this… the merino armwarmers and kneewarmers are all kind of awesome