Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Get assos ones they're better. Or just by santini/castelli for a lot less money.
sigma sport have an awesome selection you can try on.

pro team bib shorts like all the pro team stuff, comes up a size smaller, so whatever size you normally are in rapha gear, go up one..

Pro team bib shorts material is thinner and more prone to bobbling I've found, but I don't wear bib shorts as outerwear so..

anyone had an experience wearing the classic bib short & the pro one? any difference?

The classic bib shorts are a bit lower at the back. So wear a longer jersey otherwise your skin shows when you go to the drops.

I think the chamois are the same, but in a slightly different position.

The classics are more subtle with branding.

Much of a muchness. But now they have removed the pro team bundle I would say look at the assos bibs.

i'm considering assos now.. thanks fellas!

Just get the cheap ones too. Well cheaper. Millie?
The more expensive ones do have a better chamois, but unless you audaxing i wouldn't worry.

Yup - my Assos F1 Uno bibs (there cheapest ones) are far more comfortable than my Rapha 3/4's - much better pad and placement imo.
Cheaper too - Ribble have them for 115 + 10% off with code XTRA10 - so £105 all in...

I have classic and assos.. Love them both. But the Rapha classics are good in hot weather as the back cut out is very good.

Had a pair of pro shorts but sent them back.. Didn't like the cut or feel..

clearly not riding fixed "semi pro"

Yup - my Assos F1 Uno bibs (there cheapest ones) are far more comfortable than my Rapha 3/4's - much better pad and placement imo.
Cheaper too - Ribble have them for 115 + 10% off with code XTRA10 - so £105 all in...

i got rapha 3/4's and fits me well.. chamois is ok though..

Been very much enjoying my Rapha winter jersey the last few days.

Me too! I got a winter jersey, short sleeve baselayer and deep winter collar on wednesday...basically the perfect outfit for this second cold snap.

Base layer+winter jersey=spot on for the weather at the moment. I wear a hat in the mornings, too warm for the hat in the evening though.

"Base layer+winter jersey=spot on for the weather at the moment."

This.

Do not to wear a hat, cus I'm too fucking hard..."

Like a boss.

Merino turtle neck baselayer + brevet jersey + occasionally gilet if its really cold and its done me good all winter

jealous I covet that l/s brevet jersey. I couldn't bring myself to part with the folding when it was in stock.

Someone in full Rapha winter get up on a Trek spotted today.

I saw him on loampit...

It's just wrong isn't it.

jealous I covet that l/s brevet jersey. I couldn't bring myself to part with the folding when it was in stock.

Its almost too nice to wear

this thread is tragic

jealous I covet that l/s brevet jersey. I couldn't bring myself to part with the folding when it was in stock.

Its almost too nice to wear

it was so worth it. I wear it all the time. might as well

Got a mate selling a little worn Pro Team jacket black in XL: £120

if anyone is interested?

anyone got one of these?
http://www.pearlizumi.co.uk/ride/road/rainwear/p/mens-elite-reverse-jkt

EDIT: copied from email, apologies

is that an affiliate link?

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