Fancy that...

fruit boots

car? or even bicycle.. (don't ask how)

car? or even bicycle.. (don't ask how)

i'll give you how - cargo bike.

there we go - result.

unless..
http://www.londonfgss.com/thread24192.html

tynan, will managed to get a handful of people to take portrait of, surely with a bit of elbow grease and religious chanting to the God Vishnu should make it work.

:D

Ask Will, he will tell you how hard it was to get people to engage with the project long enough to be exposed on film (under a second - probably more like 1/50th) let alone give you an hour or two of one of their afternoons !

The fact that he coxed so many into his project says quite a lot about his medusa like charms and bed side manner rather than the willingness of his subjects.

I am sure he told me a journey to polo yielded only 1 or 2 photos - even though there might have been 15 or 20 people/bikes around.

Blood - Stone.

it's not just a question of organisation but a question of tracking the cyclists.

How do you mean 'tracking' ?

me no understandy

How do you mean 'tracking' ?

me no understandy

filming whilst in motion i presume, like riding alongside the subject.

^ i agree, a london equivalent to mash or whatever would be pretty entertaining.

no hipsters though.

http://www.londonfgss.com/thread21828-4.html#post809766

:)

filming whilst in motion i presume

Oh! I see.

Depends on what you are after, what you are trying to convey, what style you shoot in, the 'mise en scène' (pretentious !? - yes). loads of stuff works, from sat in the back of pick up to shooting on a very long lens from a building . . .

all these american videos are so boring and faddy, i dont think id enjoy riding anywhere near as much if all i had to ride on was flat grid sections, or constant steep hills like in SF. im a rolling hills, country road, spinning on 700's rider 4 lyfe bro.

id like to see a video made, and i like to offer my skills to help make it. however these days im more of a geared roadie, with no video equipment apart from a crappy mini DV, and i dont live in london.

id like one of those small cameras so that you can mount it all diffrent places on the bike, to add diffrent shots to the follow cam that you in every video.

Oh! I see.

Depends on what you are after, what you are trying to convey, what style you shoot in, the 'mise en scène' (pretentious !? - yes). loads of stuff works, from sat in the back of pick up to shooting on a very long lens from a building . . .

i would imagine all sorts of stuff would be used, shooting from a building, back of a motor vehicle, skateboard, bicycle, etc. or even just from a stationary position. theres a fuckload of ways to film this kind of thing allowing alot of creativity to go into the art direction, hence why macaframa etc are 50% riding 50% fancy filming.

^ don't know if any of that was even relevant.. oh..

i would imagine all sorts of stuff would be used, shooting from a building, back of a motor vehicle, skateboard, bicycle, etc. or even just from a stationary position. theres a fuckload of ways to film this kind of thing allowing alot of creativity to go into the art direction, hence why macaframa etc are 50% riding 50% fancy filming.

top of the tourist bus!

brilliant idea, good way to see how a cyclist behaves in average london traffic, also would be alot of fun chasing one through london.

i would imagine all sorts of stuff would be used, shooting from a building, back of a motor vehicle, skateboard, bicycle, etc. or even just from a stationary position. theres a fuckload of ways to film this kind of thing allowing alot of creativity to go into the art direction, hence why macaframa etc are 50% riding 50% fancy filming.

Agreed.

Also, again depending on how you approach these kinds of things, there is the additional stage of post, where all sorts of stuff can be used.

Example, here is a clip I shot up the ol' Clerkenwell Road (super super low-res and probably playing back very slowly as I have obviously crushed it into a little GIF) - shot from a stationary position - the camera is not tracking the cyclist as he goes up Clerkenwell Road, it is stationary, all the movement is done in post, it's a little gimmicky, but then again so am I.

Same sort of trickery here, I shot this last year, stood absolutely miles away from this girl. Very very long lens (800mm ?).

Girl on a bike on Vimeo

yeah, but i still think its a nice idea for a LFGSS project type thing, like the poster or book.

Just like the book it could be an accumulated effort, a group forum people could submit a short film about them and their bikes. Bring all the shorts together in one long piece.

I did a similar thing at uni although very unplanned and haphazard. Most the people i lived with in my halls of residence were studying visual art of some description and most of us had cameras.
We all had made short recreational films about our life at uni, a lot of it was us very drunk, doing stupid things along with some very abstract 'arty' type footage.
At the end of our first year we put it together in one long film and made DVDs. We called it Koyaani-flat 3.

If the forum did something like this i think we would get a very interesting cross section of the forum, bikes and life in london.

tynan, will managed to get a handful of people to take portrait of, surely with a bit of elbow grease and religious chanting to the God Vishnu should make it work.

it's not just a question of organisation but a question of tracking the cyclists, while it's all nice and easy filming will's mug from a distance as if he's doing the tour de france at the turn of the century, following the cyclists is an entirely different technique (I think).

**Yes and no. Mainly no. For my project, last year and this, it's really all about organising; the snaps are easy peasy, arranging to meet so many people at mutually convenient times isn't.
Secondly I see what you mean about 'turn of the century'. Slow. Well, yes, you have a point. **

:D

Ask Will, he will tell you how hard it was to get people to engage with the project long enough to be exposed on film (under a second - probably more like 1/50th) let alone give you an hour or two of one of their afternoons !

The fact that he coxed so many into his project says quite a lot about his medusa like charms and bed side manner rather than the willingness of his subjects.

I am sure he told me a journey to polo yielded only 1 or 2 photos - even though there might have been 15 or 20 people/bikes around.

Blood - Stone.

**Yes and no. Mainly no. The first time I went to polo last year nobody knew me and, though I didn't know it at the time, most of them had done the grand-slam-in-a-day the day before so weren't brimming with enthusiasm. But in the end about six or seven of them took part that afternoon.
This year when everyone knows me and, though I say it myself, loves me and admires me and in many cases feel a strange desire towards me, it's been easy to get people involved. I don't think you'd be short of volunteers. It really would all be about organisation and being willing to put a lot of time and effort in to it.
The only thing that might mitigate against you is that curious bodily odour that you've convinced yourself is engagingly eccentric but which, especially in the confines of your 'flat' caused me to gag on many occasions. In the open air it would perhaps be less of an issue. Shooting up wind would be on solution.
**
How do you mean 'tracking' ?

me no understandy

and by 'mitigate' I mean 'militate' :(

This year when everyone knows me and, though I say it myself, loves me and admires me and in many cases feel a strange desire towards me, it's been easy to get people involved.

Will, you are drifting into the realm of the unwell, it's the fumes, it's the fumes from the cars.

The only thing that might mitigate against you is that curious bodily odour that you've convinced yourself is engagingly eccentric but which, especially in the confines of your 'flat' caused me to gag on many occasions. In the open air it would perhaps be less of an issue. Shooting up wind would be on solution

I paid good money for that bottle of 'unknown French scent', although I will have to admit to having been followed home by a few dogs on a night out.

Agreed.

Also, again depending on how you approach these kinds of things, there is the additional stage of post, where all sorts of stuff can be used.

exactly, as a photographer, to me personally, post-processing is nearly just as important as the shooting. obviously i don't completely over-do things and make all my photos tacky HDR's (as much as i wish i did :P) but the editing is crucial and makes a massive difference to the original footage/photos.

Just like the book it could be an accumulated effort, a group forum people could submit a short film about them and their bikes. Bring all the shorts together in one long piece.

If the forum did something like this i think we would get a very interesting cross section of the forum, bikes and life in london.

i like this idea, 20-30 secs for each person, briefly introducing themselves & bike and what they love about riding it. to add to the initial footage of riding of course..

Example, here is a clip I shot up the ol' Clerkenwell Road (super super low-res and probably playing back very slowly as I have obviously crushed it into a little GIF) - shot from a stationary position - the camera is not tracking the cyclist as he goes up Clerkenwell Road, it is stationary, all the movement is done in post, it's a little gimmicky, but then again so am I.

perfect example of the kind of subtle trickery which can be essential in some shooting cirumstances. i mean what if you wanted to get a panned shot of the cyclist, but for some technical or environmental reason you couldn't? perfect.

We called it Koyaani-flat 3.

:D

Nothing like a cheap pun to reel them in. :)

it would be a better way of filming, instead of doing it like the mash lots, just film it in a different technique, like tynan's example.

i suppose it would make the film alot more unique and set it aside from the usual mash/macaframa (which are still both very well filmed and produced).

being a london-based thing we would have to really make it our own, show up the americans ;)

I think it should be set in the future; say, a week next wednesday?

I think it should be set in the future; say, a week next wednesday?

I love this kind of outside the box thinking.