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• #52
in australia we had a similar party to the bnp, run by pauline hanson. bloody awful and bloody awful for the whole political landscape - anyway that's not the point. i lived in a small country town which only had a meatworks, this meatworks was about to close. my inital thoughts were 'good the place can get on with regenerating and becoming a latte sipping, antique selling, yuppy loving rural setting'...but as you can imagine the rest of the town saw it differently.
these people really had no-one to represent them. However, the one party that came to the town was pauline's. she talked at the local pub, went to the factory and ranted about saving jobs for workers and families...etc. Of course there was an undertone of racial discrimiation to it all but the point is that she was the only party to voice the concerns of these people. in a two party system that is concerned, nearly completely, with spin people feel as if their concerns are not meant. parties like the bnp do this. so even through their party politics are fucked their bigorty is still worth understanding and actually looking at what they are representing. best way to convince people to not support something is to understand why they support it.
The solution, i think, to my small town problem was that the local government needed to manging the change well and set up small industries (whether it be a gourmet suasages works...etc) ...but we never got to this point as the factory is still open. pauline's party policy's were absorbed by the mainstream parties and she was commited for tax fraud and the town is still a shithole.
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• #53
i was going to add rant over. but compared to oliver's rants that looks short!!
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• #54
All BNP are stupid cunts.
another +1 here
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• #55
in australia we had a similar party to the bnp, run by pauline hanson. bloody awful and bloody awful for the whole political landscape - anyway that's not the point. i lived in a small country town which only had a meatworks, this meatworks was about to close. my inital thoughts were 'good the place can get on with regenerating and becoming a latte sipping, antique selling, yuppy loving rural setting'...but as you can imagine the rest of the town saw it differently.
these people really had no-one to represent them. However, the one party that came to the town was pauline's. she talked at the local pub, went to the factory and ranted about saving jobs for workers and families...etc. Of course there was an undertone of racial discrimiation to it all but the point is that she was the only party to voice the concerns of these people. in a two party system that is concerned, nearly completely, with spin people feel as if their concerns are not meant. parties like the bnp do this. so even through their party politics are fucked their bigorty is still worth understanding and actually looking at what they are representing. best way to convince people to not support something is to understand why they support it.
The solution, i think, to my small town problem was that the local government needed to manging the change well and set up small industries (whether it be a gourmet suasages works...etc) ...but we never got to this point as the factory is still open. pauline's party policy's were absorbed by the mainstream parties and she was commited for tax fraud and the town is still a shithole.
Bingo!
Also some but not all BNP and stupid. Many of the people pushing the BNP are pretty smart and manipulative, just because you don't agree with someone stance or morals does not make them stupid.
[Goodwins law] I don't agree with Hitlers morals and point of view but he was clearly smart, charming, charismatic a great public speaker e.t.c.[/Goodwins law]
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• #56
The BNP make me ashamed to be Caucasian, i think on some level it's their fault i like reggae so much, a subliminal effort to distance myself from their stupidity.
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• #57
i tired reading mie kampf for that reason and i also learnt that hitler can be very dull and looooong.
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• #58
The BNP make me ashamed to be Caucasian, i think on some level it's their fault i like reggae so much, a subliminal effort to distance myself from their stupidity.
That's a silly thing to say, there are racist groups in every ethnicity it's only because we live in Europe that the primary face of racisum we see is whites vs ____.
i tired reading mie kampf for that reason and i also learnt that hitler can be very dull and looooong.
When you're in prison you have time to ramble on a bit.
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• #59
Bingo!
Also some but not all BNP and stupid. Many of the people pushing the BNP are pretty smart and manipulative, just because you don't agree with someone stance or morals does not make them stupid.
[Goodwins law] I don't agree with Hitlers morals and point of view but he was clearly smart, charming, charismatic a great public speaker e.t.c.[/Goodwins law]
I see what your saying, but there must be different types of intelligence then.
To be able to look at two people of different colours and proclaim one to be better than the other seems pretty stupid to me.
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• #60
not another thread about that bnp!
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• #61
A friend of mine went into BNP last week to buy some h+son rims and they were very rude, overpriced and the shop smelled of old bikes.
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• #62
True but the followers arent exactly in the same boat as the organisers and hitler just stream-lined mussolini so hes a copy cat anyway!
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• #63
This is the first thread I have seen on this site that has filled me with hate for someone.
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• #64
I see what your saying, but there must be different types of intelligence then.
To be able to look at two people of different colours and proclaim one to be better than the other seems pretty stupid to me.
Logic all depends on your initial axioms. If you've been fed a lot of misinformation it's reasonable to come to different initial axioms.
Having said that some people are just cunts too.
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• #65
This is the first thread I have seen on this site that has filled me with hate for someone.
I don't understand why this subject is being discussed on here.This website is much like hardcore porn. No holes bard.
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• #66
Logic all depends on your initial axioms. If you've been fed a lot of misinformation it's reasonable to come to different initial axioms.
Having said that some people are just cunts too.
tru dat
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• #67
This website is much like hardcore porn. No holes bard.
shakespeare porn? now that is a celebration of englishness.
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• #68
That's a silly thing to say, there are racist groups in every ethnicity it's only because we live in Europe that the primary face of racisum we see is whites vs ____.
Agreed it was a fippant justification of my love of reggae, not really mean't to be taken seriously. humour fail. However the existence of racist organisations of other ethnicity doen't lessen my loathing for those fools.
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• #69
Is this a dagger I see before me? Or are you just pleased to see me...
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• #70
why is this prick on ldnfgss?
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• #71
They've been banned.
I suspect that what has happened is that the first post, whilst receiving no replies at all, turned up in a search by those fuckheads and then they registered here solely to respond to it. Dumb as pigshit.
However, it presents a simple solution... don't publically make debate about the BNP if you wish to avoid having them arrive here and post rubbish.
I'm not saying don't have the debate... I'm saying don't publically have the debated. The latter is just asking for their participation and I'm afraid that will never be at an intelligent level.
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• #72
Thread closed to prevent the morons from continuing to be moronic. It's for their own good.
Well I'm still blaming racism.