Which Tyres?

You also need to take in consideration that the tyres they ride are vastly different, especially two factor; tubular and hand-made, those mean you can run it high and still be quite supple to ride.

Speak for yourself. Some of us, save on our touring and city push bikes, ride these tubulars :-)

Secondly, latex lose pressure quickly, so if you run em high at first, it'll likely to lose maybe 10-15psi in an all day race (anyone know how much losses?).

Not all tubulars have latex inner-tubes. All of Continental's offerings use special butyl tubes, save for some very special "one offs" when "demanded" by supported teams within their team support programme ("ProLtd"). Most proriders on Continental tubulars--- even in Olympic track competitions--- are riding butyl.

Thirdly, I don't think racers cared, unless they're the like of Cavendish.

Proriders tend to be very "mojo" driven, susceptible to placebo effects and easilly swayed to follow trends. They are a soft sell for magic bullets. They are also risk aversive so tend to jump blindly onto bandwagons. That is why things like elliptical chainrings (Q-Rings, Osymetric etc.) keep making their rounds.. while always armed with a Sharpie or logo stickers to cover up their sponsorship sins..

This is a question about inner tubes. I bought some Conti Race 28s (700c) recently, and noticed that they are quite a bit bigger then the wheel/tyres. I have to fold the excess into the tyre which creates an overlap. Has anyone else experienced this, or know why they are so much bigger?

Vanilla bikes have an all black Vittoria pave deal

Now that winter, if it was actually here seems to be slowly fading into the past, what would be good summer tyres in 28c? GP4000 II is the default I would assume?

summer

Calm down bruv.

You're not from around here are you..

The L is for London.

There is no summer in London.

An English man visiting Australia looks up at the sky and comments to a man on the street "Looks like rain".
The Australian answers "Hope so. Not for me, but for my boy. I've seen rain".

The laughs I enjoyed when I heard London had a thing called a hosepipe ban, due to water shortages...

Hopefully fitting some new marathon supreme 35mm on the commuter tonight, hopefully it will be worth the wait.

If anyone want some I got them from ebay atm a pretty good deal for the pair:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/351657872474?clk_rvr_id=986764219091&rmvSB=true

Make sure you have couple of beers and extra tyre levers

I used GP4000s II as an all season tyres.

I tried them some time ago but within 2 or 3 weeks, developed random cut in the sidewall which has never happened to any tyre since. Felt a bit pissed so took them off.

Now that winter, if it was actually here seems to be slowly fading into the past, what would be good summer tyres in 28c? GP4000 II is the default I would assume?

Running Schwalbe One 28mm on my commuter and they've been great so far. After having also used Schwalbe Ultremos, I've been quite impressed with their 'race' offerings. Durable and good grip (both wet and dry).

I have sworn by the Bontranger Hardcase Racelite for nearly a decade, and have been largely puncture free, but my last pair is nearly the end of their working life.
I know they have been discontinued and there is the AW range that seeks to replace them.

Anyone running the Bonty AW range, or have recommendation?
I value puncture protection and grip over rolling resistance and weight.

thoughts/opinions etc?

BMC Streetracer with a 23mm Schwalbe Ultremo.
I'm guessing no for fitting a 25mm in there ?

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Not if you want any paint left. A wider rim (if possible) might drop the tyre profile but then it might have other issues.

Hippy's right, look like you got Shimano rims, put some nice wide one on and the 23mm will feel like 25mm.

If there's ample clearance, then the 25mm may able to fit and give you the same comfort as a 28mm.

I have to laugh when i see Londoners complaining about rain

I laugh more when I get weather reports in tyre threads.

yeah, there's no way weather could be relevant to a discussion on bike tyres is there?

Only if you're riding with Gatorskins.

A fairly random "I have to laugh when i see Londoners complaining about rain"
and an average rainfall chart has what relation to tyres exactly?

If it's raining, ANYWHERE, feel free to change your tyres. I won't be.

You were discussing rainfall on this very page, and then get pissy when I bring it up?

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You can't win in an argument with Hippy. That is the law.

Arguing with any kind of automated device is pretty pointless.