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And it's the right colour:

The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for EJ08 LUZ are:
Date of Liability 01 01 2010
Date of First Registration 23 05 2008
Year of Manufacture 2008
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1497CC
CO2 Emissions 104g/Km
Fuel Type Hybrid Electric
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour BLACK
Vehicle Type Approval M1
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £0.00
12 Months Rate £15.00

Sam_w- was that guesswork on your part?

That's cruddy mate - sorry to hear.

On the plus side, outer circle is wired for light and sound most definitely - The US ambassador lives there along with a load of other oil vips. Could be worth asking the dudes in the red police van that park up near the north west corner - they tend to be really helpful (in contrast to regular police.)

And it's the right colour:

The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for EJ08 LUZ are:
Date of Liability 01 01 2010
Date of First Registration 23 05 2008
Year of Manufacture 2008
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1497CC
CO2 Emissions 104g/Km
Fuel Type Hybrid Electric
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour BLACK
Vehicle Type Approval M1
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £0.00
12 Months Rate £15.00

Sam_w- was that guesswork on your part?

Just went through the askmid website assuming that the 8 given was wrong and tried different combos, just good old fashioned donkey work!

Wow, well found guys, where did you get all that info for ej08 luz?

it could be right but i ghave already filed the police report with 8uz as thats what the wittness came back with so i can only hope the police are as bright as you lot!!

Im gonna call the number given by billybob today and see if they can help...

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I used the Direct Gov/DVLA "check if this vehicle has road tax" site- I think it's meant to be used if you are considering buying a vehicle.

No matter if the area has CCTV- and it almost certainly does- the police can now make a real time inquiry of the ANPR cameras that are all over London due to the congestion charge.

If they want to they can confirm if that vehicle was on the outer circle at that time.

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I'm glad you seem to be ok- but get yourself to the Docs ASAP, and get a friendly mechanic to check the bike over and give you a report on the damage/costs of fixing said damage in case the driver is caught.

Failure to stop/hit and run is pretty serious in terms of an offence, certainly where injury is sustained.

I'd contact the police whom you made the report to and say that you think it might be the number plate that Sam-W discovered- at least they can discount that car if it was not the one, and it might help...

For what its worth:

http://www.allapprovedcars.com/CarDetails.aspx?Id=502121246

that's a lot of money for a shit car.

his car will be a lot shitter if i see it again... as will his face...

called the [police about cctv they are useless have no idea if there is anything there... will wait until the form gets processed...

I am going to ill out a new form today and put the correct number plate on it

Words of caution

We don't know that the plate is correct- it is supposition, with a few supporting points.

That said I hope we have come up with the right one.

Quite right, pass the info on to the police talboy, if it is an innocent party I'm sure they'll be able to establish this. Impressive though dammit!

And sorry you had this happen to you talboy, hope you fix up and feel better.

Words of caution

We don't know that the plate is correct- it is supposition, with a few supporting points.

That said I hope we have come up with the right one.

Thanks for your work on this mate, i think i will do the same as you and do all combinations possible first ie ej08 auz...buz...cuz

see if any of them come up with a black prius, i doubt it will but just in case...

then ill fill out a new form... (ps takes about 45 minutes to complete it!!)

Failure to stop/hit and run is pretty serious in terms of an offence, certainly where injury is sustained.

I'd contact the police whom you made the report to and say that you think it might be the number plate that Sam-W discovered- at least they can discount that car if it was not the one, and it might help...

The police can run a partial plate check on the PNC and then through a process of ellimination should be able to pin down the car involved (it is unlikely that there would be many black prius that matched EJ08 *UZ). They can then get all the owner's details... simples. Of course if it is a company car it will make it slightly harder to pin down the driver. The police don't always have the resources to carry out investigations as thoroughly as they or us would like but lets hope the driver gets caught and charged.

Caution on filling out a new form. You were given a specific piece of information by a witness. By amending in a report to the police it you could be classed as giving a false statement. If the case were to go to court, it could easily be thrown out on that technicality alone. Besides, if the witness got one letter wrong, could they have got another one wrong as well? How many black Toyota Prius' are there with a registration that could be misconstrued as EJ08 LUZ?

You have an unreliable witness, better off looking for better information through CCTV and the like. Revisit the scene and look at every bit of every building in the area for cameras that may have covered the event and ask to view the footage.

Has anyone actually used CCTV to catch a HAR driver?

Someone I work with was a HAR victim when cycling, they did catch the driver through cctv. But I've got a feeling he had a mate, or a mate of a mate who works with the police and helped pull a few strings.

Caution on filling out a new form. You were given a specific piece of information by a witness. By amending in a report to the police it you could be classed as giving a false statement. If the case were to go to court, it could easily be thrown out on that technicality alone.

I remember giving a statement for a burglary for which I was the sole witness:
Me: It was a white transit.
DC: Are you sure it wasn't yellow.
Me: No it was white.
DC: Definately white?
Me: Yeah.
DC: Ok... well I tell you what, I'll put down 'the van was light in colour, possibly yellow'.
Me: Err?

The police can run a partial plate check on the PNC and then through a process of ellimination should be able to pin down the car involved (it is unlikely that there would be many black prius that matched EJ08 *UZ). They can then get all the owner's details... simples. Of course if it is a company car it will make it slightly harder to pin down the driver. The police don't always have the resources to carry out investigations as thoroughly as they or us would like but lets hope the driver gets caught and charged.

I checked all combinations of EJ08 *UZ and L was the only one that worked. (this doesn't stop any of the other letter s being wrong though!

Sam your a total legend mate, thanks for all your help with this, im gonna fill out a new form and leave a note on the front explaining the mistake, i want this dick to get charged...

saw the doctor today he just said it was mild whiplash on the neck and the pain in the lower back is just strain and will go away after 10 days or so...

glad its not too serious but still doesnt weaken my hunt for the wanker prius driver!!

I checked all combinations of EJ08 *UZ and L was the only one that worked. (this doesn't stop any of the other letter s being wrong though!

True, and has been said before a partial number plate is not going to directly lead to a conviction. But the police can run some inquiries and contact the possible driver, who may well admit to the incident or give up some other more compelling evidence of guilt.

all very sobering reading, especially as I was doing laps with a friend yesterday on the Outer Circle and we both were nearly taken out by a 4x4 (whose driver, as she swung round in front of us and sped off, shrugged as if to say 'so what' when we tried to alert her to our presence).

anyway, glad you are ok talboy, fingers crossed that the detective work above might help the real cops get their backsides into gear.

Be wary, especially round there, of cars with number plates of the form 123 A 321 - they're diplomatic cars and appear to get a pretty free hand to drive like dicks. Wouldn't be at all surprised if your 4x4 was one.

I remember giving a statement for a burglary for which I was the sole witness:
Me: It was a white transit.
DC: Are you sure it wasn't yellow.
Me: No it was white.
DC: Definately white?
Me: Yeah.
DC: Ok... well I tell you what, I'll put down 'the van was light in colour, possibly yellow'.
Me: Err?

= "We have some scrotes who drive a yellow van who've dodged too many charges over the years and we want them done up good and proper. So the van was fucking yellow, OK! And you saw 'em do it. And they wuz killin' babies whilst making orphans shoot up crack at the time as well. Now, fine work Sir, you've made a real difference with this beautiful work of fictio... errr, I mean, beautifully factual statement."

What a cunt it would be great if you got him :D

Caution on filling out a new form. You were given a specific piece of information by a witness. By amending in a report to the police it you could be classed as giving a false statement. If the case were to go to court, it could easily be thrown out on that technicality alone. Besides, if the witness got one letter wrong, could they have got another one wrong as well? How many black Toyota Prius' are there with a registration that could be misconstrued as EJ08 LUZ?

You have an unreliable witness, better off looking for better information through CCTV and the like. Revisit the scene and look at every bit of every building in the area for cameras that may have covered the event and ask to view the footage.

Errr...no. Don't know how else to put it, I'm afraid, but that's not correct. Hearsay yes, false statement no. If your witness can give evidence of a number plate, all but one digit, and the only possible valid plate is a black prius, and a black prius hit you, I would think that's a case to answer -- the defendant will need an alibi / to give evidence that you were riding like a loon. Registered keeper will probably give the police the run around though, "I don't know who was driving, blah blah blah".

Be wary, especially round there, of cars with number plates of the form 123 A 321 - they're diplomatic cars and appear to get a pretty free hand to drive like dicks. Wouldn't be at all surprised if your 4x4 was one.
Free hand? If they have diplomatic plates (it's a "D" in the middle) they usually have diplomatic immunity -- they could squash you flat on purpose and be on their merry way. They'd leave the country never to return, but if they've killed someone, what's the comfort in that?

Fortunately, they mostly just double park and refuse to pay the tickets. The US embassy owes a few million quid in congestion charges and fines -- they say it's a tax and that they don't have to pay it, TfL say it's a charge, and the yanks should pay. They don't, TfL do nothing, end of. Useless knowledge FTW.

= "We have some scrotes who drive a yellow van who've dodged too many charges over the years and we want them done up good and proper. So the van was fucking yellow, OK! And you saw 'em do it. And they wuz killin' babies whilst making orphans shoot up crack at the time as well. Now, fine work Sir, you've made a real difference with this beautiful work of fictio... errr, I mean, beautifully factual statement."

This whole case was a bit of a joke from start to finish. Firstly the cops show up just as the van turns around the corner making their getaway... I run up to the cops: 'They went thataway 30 seconds ago you could catch them if you step on it'... 'yeah alright son we'll handle this from here' and they get out the car and take a slow walk around the scene. Doh (#1)

After giving the statement and everything I am waiting to be contacted for court etc, but nothing..... 8 months later I get a call saying 'by the way we've lost the case file so you won't be needed for court, thanks anyway'. DOH (#2)