Charge Scissor

That looks like a lot of fun. My next bike'll be a chuckable street phykzee.

isn't that what your Mercian is for? ;)

I always love that bike the first time I saw it, first one I saw that look like a lots of fun to ride.

The geometry is not very compact at all and you will be able to go as fast as on any other fixed gear/singlespeed assuming everything equal (wheels, tyres, gearing etc,.) The only oddity with geometry is the long TT which needs a short stem.
As an example of compactness, I am 5' 10" with 33" inside leg and this is how much seatpost is exposed so not exactly compact.

oh i thought they were semi-compact for some reason? maybe it s the sloping toptube like the gangsta and pompino. i'll check them out at TFG, thanks.

I use it for general riding with a good mix of off road (singletrack/fire roads rather than rock gardens!) Clipless are fine for what I do (jumping over banks, off steps, hopping over things etc,.) but wouldn't want to go too mad!
I just wanted a tough frame that is a bit more fun to throw around than the track based frames I was riding before.
Turned out I got what I was after as it is great fun. Good for riding distances in comfort and much better for messing around on during those rides. It never really felt right jumping over things, wheelying off curbs etc,. on a track bike!

cool, looks pretty much perfect for purpose. nice and chunky. what width are your tyres?

They are 35c Ribmo's. A large 35 at around 36 wide. Much bigger than the 35c Randonneurs they replaced.

I find that annoying when some company's 28c is much bigger than the other's 28c.

The geometry is not very compact at all and you will be able to go as fast as on any other fixed gear/singlespeed assuming everything equal (wheels, tyres, gearing etc,.) The only oddity with geometry is the long TT which needs a short stem.
As an example of compactness, I am 5' 10" with 33" inside leg and this is how much seatpost is exposed so not exactly compact.

Why bother getting a 'trick frame' if you're not going to use it for 'tricks'... You have a radial on the front!!

I use it for general riding with a good mix of off road (singletrack/fire roads rather than rock gardens!) Clipless are fine for what I do (jumping over banks, off steps, hopping over things etc,.) but wouldn't want to go too mad!
I just wanted a tough frame that is a bit more fun to throw around than the track based frames I was riding before.
Turned out I got what I was after as it is great fun. Good for riding distances in comfort and much better for messing around on during those rides. It never really felt right jumping over things, wheelying off curbs etc,. on a track bike!

save Kerley the job.

Why bother getting a 'trick frame' if you're not going to use it for 'tricks'... You have a radial on the front!!

well you could ask the same thing about track bikes....

Why bother getting a 'trick frame' if you're not going to use it for 'tricks'... You have a radial on the front!!

all depends what you call tricks I suppose. I wheely around, I jump over and off of banks, over ditches, streams and so on. The geometry of the trick frame is very well suited to that. Think of it as a 29er with tighter angles and slightly smaller tyres.
The radial wheel is not causing any issues either, what do you expect it to do? Although I am in process of building up some A317 disc rims as I am taking the piss a bit with the tyre width I am running on the Aerotrack rims.

oh, and open your mind...

oh, and open your mind...

This^

It's his bike, let him do whatever the hell he wants with it :D

fuck haterss ahahhaa

all depends what you call tricks I suppose. I wheely around, I jump over and off of banks, over ditches, streams and so on. The geometry of the trick frame is very well suited to that. Think of it as a 29er with tighter angles and slightly smaller tyres.
The radial wheel is not causing any issues either, what do you expect it to do? Although I am in process of building up some A317 disc rims as I am taking the piss a bit with the tyre width I am running on the Aerotrack rims.

oh, and open your mind...

Ok, it just doesn't appear as if you have set it up for that kind of riding. I mention the radial as they are pretty weak when doing 'tricks', they are more likely to buckle under pressure.. I'm not being closed minded, I just think if you're going to the effort, and not to mention expenditure to get a frame to use for tricks, you might as well make it as strong as possible... But if you feel it's suitable for your needs then fair enough, It was more of an enquiry as to why you have chosen to set it up in that way.

I have it setup for exactly that sort of riding. All of the parts are plenty strong enough for what I do and I think you are showing your ignorance here or at the very least assuming you need a load of BMX based parts for riding off road.
How much effort was it to buy a frame (took all of 2 minutes), how much expenditure (one of the cheapest framsets around)
I will leave it at that, and just say again it is perfect for what I do with it.

And you still need to open your mind :-)

hey kerley just wondered what cranks you were running?

also to add to having your own set ups how you want, there are many downhill racers choosing to run dura-ace rear mech's to save weight, i have even seen one running the cranks on a dh rig sound like madness but it looked amazing.

kerley, your bike looks incredibly fun. I love how you're using clipless pedals. I'd be doing the same on a fixed gear bike for off road, although I'd take it on dirt jumps too :)

Being properly attached to the bike makes bunnyhopping fucking fun.

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Being properly attached to the bike makes bunnyhopping fucking fun.

+1...
fucking big plus one, even when you are clipped to any bike well and then have to jump a pothole, or just get the thing in the air sharpish..ie hole, hole, hole, chasm in tarmac, it's nice to just be able to go...huh! and have the whole bike follow you...hhmmm,.
though saying that haven't masterd getting air and being all squirelly fixed, free I have a degree of competancy, ....fixed...meh!!

I have it setup for exactly that sort of riding. All of the parts are plenty strong enough for what I do and I think you are showing your ignorance here or at the very least assuming you need a load of BMX based parts for riding off road.
How much effort was it to buy a frame (took all of 2 minutes), how much expenditure (one of the cheapest framsets around)
I will leave it at that, and just say again it is perfect for what I do with it.

And you still need to open your mind :-)

It's not ignorance, if anything it's the opposite; inquisitivity as to why you decide to run a radial laced wheel on the front of a trick bike. If I was ignorant I would not even bother asking in the first place... As long as your bike is can handle the type of riding you're doing then it's all cool :D

I have never had issues with radially laced front wheels, you seem to be obsessed with them failing :-)
They are fine off road and for jumping around on, hardly going to collapse are they (I used radial BMX wheels years ago and didn't get problems yet did far more stupid things on them). Where is their weakpoint anyway, laterally or vertically, I can't even remember?

Tas5777 the crank is a cheap FSA Gossamer external BB which due to being compact has a 110 bcd so I can get a 34 ring on to give slightly less chance of hitting anything when clumbsily going over logs and such.

I'm building new wheels with some touring mavic a119 and cheap novatec hubs (fixed/fixed) 36h. They're gonna go on my heavy create frame and make a similar setup with wider tires.
good for polo/short urban escapades/flat off-road trails/messing around.
Good concept IMO.
I like the bar spin-able disks on that white bike, very neat.

nope

yep

they have sold out at TFG, I would like to see them in the flesh (as it were) are there any other shops in london that have them in?

had a ride of pique's on weekend. mmm, very steep headtube and long top tube.

Steep headtube?
71.5 isn't it?
Lots of trail I heard?

feel like a bmx more than normal frames.