Charge Scissor

I was also reading that i will probably want to buy a new bike soon after my conversion if i like fixed-gear

Always a good idea, you never know if you might not liked it, also if you managed to build up your conversion cheaply (says under £100 easily), you're not losing much and it always nice to have a 'beater' that you just use to go around town and lock it up without any worry.

ask around, ask friends, relative if they have any old bike, fully build (IN YOUR SIZE, make sure it fit you reasonably well), car boot sales etc. eBay a little expensive for cheap second hand road bike.

after that, concentrate on sorting the bike out, get new or second hand back wheel, chain etc. and bob your uncle (if the road bike have a single chainring up front, perfect).

don't own any form of bike
is that still the best option?

yeah, not owning any form of bike is the best option. Less to go wrong, and it won't get nicked

I built my first fixed gear bike for £60 on the dot!
Then I got myself something I could trick on after.
In my opinion build a cheep one up, as ed says then get a freestyle one...
Up to you, but I think you are in the same position as I was a while back, and I have only just got a freestyle bike...

yeah, not owning any form of bike is the best option. Less to go wrong, and it won't get nicked

So what you're saying is, i shouldn't spend my time on learning how to ride a fixed gear, but rather how to mime riding one. Oh yeah great.

alright i really want to dive in at the deep end here but i should definitely listen to you guys as i know nothing.

Check ya wallz.!

i did, and i've only had an account 24 hours so i can't reply yet, but around the 400 squid mark

Pm me when you can

Chinny, you don't need to be an expert when it come to putting a bike together, you just need a clear head, common sense, and follow the instruction (like Sheldon Brown, very very useful for those who doesn't know where to start.

this will defintely help you;

http://sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html

Thanks a lot man, i've been reading that site for a while now and it really does help
there is a boy in the year above me at school who i know does fixed gear (i think he runs the 14bikeco blog) and i'm gonna ask him to help me out

Mikey?

oh, mikey?
if you're running a freestyle setup he will definitely be able to help you, with tricks also.

yeah i think that's him

he shreds, he has some nice tricks down and you can have a little wee when you see his setup

Does anyone have a small i could have a quick spin on, not too sure whether i want to go that small, but im interested to see how it rides.

Does anyone have a small i could have a quick spin on, not too sure whether i want to go that small, but im interested to see how it rides.

What size bike do you usually ride as the Scissor small is not small in conventional terms.

i have a plug in med and it is a bit big for me, i rode my friends 53 cutter and it was fun but im not sure if i really want something that small.

The 53 Cutter has a 55 TT which is 0.5 longer than the Med Plug although the angles are steeper on the Cutter. The TT on the small Scissor is 57 (from memory)

What was too small on the Cutter that is too big on the Plug ?

stem likely, those short BMX one, and the Plug tend to have a 110mm stem (I think).

stem likely, those short BMX one, and the Plug tend to have a 110mm stem (I think).

good point, although I sort of hoped twelve would have noticed if one bike had a 50mm stem and the other a 110mm stem :-)

Whatever way you look at it, the Scissor is a long frame and there is only 1cm difference in TT between the sizes so it is more down to standover and headtube length than TT length.

Twelve, if you are riding a med plug then i would def go for the small Scissor.
I went from a 58cm Fuji Track to the Med Scissor and don't notice it being significantly smaller.
I'm running the seat on the Scissor real low coz it suits the way i ride it but if i put it up a wee bit i'd be able to ride it for miles with no discomfort i reckon.

Oh yeah, i'm 6'2

The 53 Cutter has a 55 TT which is 0.5 longer than the Med Plug although the angles are steeper on the Cutter. The TT on the small Scissor is 57 (from memory)

What was too small on the Cutter that is too big on the Plug ?

whoops I meant large plug, med plug would fit me fine i reckon.

Questions regarding charge scissors paintwork.

I bought the f&f Not too long ago and the paint seems to chip really easy, especially on the orange forks. Just wondering if anyone else has had the same problem?

also is it worth coating the fork in Helicopter tape?

I've got the forks sitting downstairs right now but no frame (seethes). Maybe I'll take a wrench to the paint at lunchtime and see what the quality is like since I can't see myself using them for their intended purpose for a couple of months.

i haven't had any problems with paint chipping at all, and ive been throwing it about....