It's arrived at last the only one in the country (bar the other 20)

I hate the term "unboxing". Surely you just open it up.

How do you feel about deboxing and inverse boxing?

I think that twit who made the video in the knife thread used the term "deboxing".

steal Balki's hobnobs, he has small ones i heard.

Actually now that you mention it, I should give some public cuddles to Gormley for that. Anyone who throws in 2 packets of Hobnobs to sweeten the deal on the sale of a saddle is a bloody champ!

That drive-by comment is just utter cock. I reckon you'd get pushed off that in an east london estate in a trice, so it would actually be the target of street robbery.

I think you don't need to adjust the length of the rubber band as the ends are adjustable (to allow for stretch, presumably?)

Must be a fucker to get new chainrings/cogs for that.

What I don't understand is, how is it less likely to fail with mud and stones in it? If you got a stone lodged in one of the bloody great teeth, how is that better that a 1/8" cog tooth?

I think we should go back to inch pitch.

Sod the Trek, that Ventana is great. Want, want, want!

I think we should go back to inch pitch.

I'm going back to walking. Much more reliable.

10'' single pivot bikes = rubbish.

Unless you're talking about single pivot with a linkage driven shock. A high single pivot with a linkage driven shock still works better than floating drivetrains in my opinion...it's what's been used on motocross bikes for a long time.
A high pivot gives the best path for the axle and the linkage controls the shock and prevents it from having to be set too stiff to resist bottoming that it loses it's small bump compliance.
Just my opinion of course :)

I've got small bump compliance.

I've got small bump compliance.

Yeah, you're just lacking the 10" bit now :)

Single pivot bikes skip over rock gardens, the grip is terrible compared to something like a VPP linkage.

Single pivot bikes skip over rock gardens, the grip is terrible compared to something like a VPP linkage.

So the press would like you to believe.

I've ridden both and think it makes a massive difference.

Depends...i'm talking about a well positioned pivot with a linkage driven shock and a good shock tuned specifically to the riders weight..and a floating brake arm.

Well fair do's, haven't ridden much stuff like that, but have heard that works pretty well - but pretty heavy. But something like the Orange 224 is an extremely expensive frame, for the amount of technology you get, not that laods fo etch is always the answer, but its just pants compared to the other big name dh bikes atm. They wouldn't be anywhere without Steve Peat being on their team for so long.

never liked Oranges anyway...the most basic design going :)

Do we finally agree on something!?!

Do we finally agree on something!?!

Don't get too carried away...i only mean their full sussers...i still love their early hardtails...clockwork, prestige, aluminium O, aluminium elite, and Vit t. :)

who was the high-end car manufacturer (think italian supercars but not ferrari or lambo) who brought out that dreadful, ostentatious and unbelievably expensive bike a year or so ago? it was silver and orange with aerospoke-a-like wheels...? i thought zonda but my search showed nothing.....? anyone?

anyway, this trek reminds me of that.

i fucking want belt-drive. i do. but i don't want a weird breakable rear-triangle.

maybe i just want a 1/32 set-up.

who was the high-end car manufacturer (think italian supercars but not ferrari or lambo) who brought out that dreadful, ostentatious and unbelievably expensive bike a year or so ago? it was silver and orange with aerospoke-a-like wheels...? i thought zonda but my search showed nothing.....? anyone?

anyway, this trek reminds me of that.

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no it was waaaaay worse than that. the wheels looked like propellers. good effort though.

When you said Italian did you mean Dutch?

yeah man, i suppose i did! nice one!

bleurgh. i think it cost ten grand or something laughable.

I think a few subtle changes make mine look better.

Kingcutter- I like the idea, in the spirit of the forum can it be run fixed?

Super-p- It was the propeller comment, Spyker are a recent arrival on the car scene claiming a lot of heritage from a company of the same name who made aircraft.