Lightweight tent recommendations?

Can't remember which size we have, but they don't really weigh much. We took one for TMB, as my partner has an affinity with the ground and will usually end up on it once or twice a trip.

Fair enough re:water filters.

Just get a propane/butane mix and it'll work at what ever altitude and temp you can physically get it too.

Missus just pointed out an MSR Access 2 for £440 on Farcebook.
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/tents-shelters-c25/two-person-tents-c26/access-2-tent-p6454

Similar size, more complicated setup, 2 doors, more vestibule space, 1.6kg+pegs and bags

re: the X-Tex stuff

The X-tex fabric will result in frozen condensation on the inside on cold winter nights, at least with a double skin tent this will usually be on the tent outer: "There is one set of circumstances where no fabric will work, X-tex included, and this is in very cold conditions where the temperatures are so low that the water molecules not only condense, but freeze on the inside of the tent as well."
Source: https://www.crux.uk.com/about-x-tex-fabric

This does look kinda neat

The Hilleberg Helags is one of their yellow label tents which are not designed for winter conditions. The lower part of the outer tent is scalloped to allow more air to circulate and the inner has large panels of mesh. For Scottish winter conditions I would be looking at one of their red-label tents, e.g., the Nallo2 or Nallo 2 GT, or the black -label Nammatj 2 (which I use when winter camping with 2 people), though the latter two tents may be too heavy for your requirements.

I would not underestimate the potential severity of conditions in the Scottish valleys or even by the sea in Winter. I once spent New Year in a campsite near Portree on the Isle of Skye -- the wind picked up, it dumped snow and the temperature fell to -20C . The tent we used was a Terra Nova 4-pole geodesic and at least we felt secure. These days I would be tempted to stay in a Bothy and light a fire.

Not really. Just working on the assumption it's what people use in winter.

But if you look at my "3 season" tent compared to the Hilleberg "3 season" tent they're vastly different. Mine might be 3 seasons in Oz but that Hilleberg looks like it'd do 3 seasons on the side of a mountain in France.

I guess what I'm looking for is a slightly bigger tent, particularly bigger vestibule area(s), two entrances would be nice and something that's definitely going to survive going back to Scotland in winter.

I forgot your existing tent was an ultralight 3 seasons at a push.
There's a Nammatji 3 on FB marketplace. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/242587347771346/

There's a Nammatji 3 on FB marketplace

This is a winter tent for Scotland.

I have a Terra Nova Quasar, its approximately 18 years old, and I've re-taped the seams once.
They are fantastic tents, Ive used it in all sorts of amazing weather and its not budged an inch. Mines the 2 man, but have had 4 incredibly snug people in it when a pals MSR collapsed in strong wind. Obviously cant sleep with 4 but could wait out the storm in relative warm and dry.

The obvious downside is it weighs more than other options.

Hah sounds brutal, romantic and wonderful advertising copy.

Yeah, I'm not expecting to be out in -20C shit but me and weather have an interesting relationship so unexpected stuff is basically what I expect now :). I take your point about the heavier duty tent options but I don't know if I'd be so remote when the temps are heading that low that I'd need it - like you, I'd be looking for solid buildings.

It was exciting for 10 minutes then boring.
As soon as it eased off, and it was getting light we were up and bailing back to the cars. The little cafe on the outskirts of Glasgow that provided tea as hot as the sun and hash browns made the morning bearable.

I don't have FB and the grrl @PhilDAS has gone out for lunch. Any chance of a copy/paste?

3.3kg 3-person might be a bit big. This thing will be swinging off my handlebars (unless I get a rack or something)

For clarity, I am not Hippy's grrl

I got mixed reports reading about Terra Nova stuff. The vibe seemed to be that their older ones were great but the newer stuff wasn't up to snuff.

Don't be shy. Shout it from the rooftops!

:-*

Yeah, I'm not expecting to be out in -20C shit but me and weather have an interesting relationship so unexpected stuff is basically what I expect now :).

You get these temperature inversions as the cold air streams down and collects in the valleys, which is very picturesque from above as you look down on a cloud, but it is freezing down below.

Maybe the lighter 4-season pyramid tents I mentioned earlier are worth a look, some are pretty large inside. Their edges can be dug into snow for warmth and they are versatile enough for use in summer by omitting the inner.

Maybe it's the pole in the middle, maybe the tall look, I dunno, but I'm not as keen on the pyramid ones for some reason. Maybe they remind me of the shitty tents we used as kids too much :)

It was exciting for 10 minutes then boring

It's the human condition

I have a Terra Nova Quasar, its approximately 18 years old, and I've re-taped the seams once.
They are fantastic tents, Ive used it in all sorts of amazing weather and its not budged an inch.

Yes, it's a great tent. Heavy by today's standards, but there is something reassuring in a storm about the tight inner pitch and multiple crossing poles.

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Maybe it's the pole in the middle, maybe the tall look, I dunno, but I'm not as keen on the pyramid ones for some reason. Maybe they remind me of the shitty tents we used as kids too much :)

For extended trips, my spouse refuses to use a tent where each person does not have their own space to sit up in, so many single-pole tents would not work for us either. It is why we have a horizontal tunnel Nammatj, but it is bulky packed away. The Supermid might have enough headroom, though, as it is pretty big-- I would like to try one.

We are pretty comfortable sticking legs and butts into each others faces (kinky, I know) but I'm sure at some point I wont be able to actually bend over enough to reach the zip or to get my boots on without dragging water/muck into the tent so a bit more room makes some sense.

The Namatj 3 looks purrty https://hilleberg.com/eng/tent/black-label-tents/nammatj-3/

3x the price of my current tent though and 3x the weight. I guess no one gives a fuck about how heavy it is when it's pissing down in 60mph winds :)

Nice one, thanks. Looks pretty neat.

Why shouldn't I buy it? Talk me out of it please :)

This is what ours looks like - only one person can get in at a time (which sucks when it's raining and you have nothing else to shelter under) and vestibule only good for shoes and helmets...

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you're buying a 3 person tent for arctic storm conditions?

"The Nammatj and Nammatj GT are the masters of both high and low country, equally suited for a high altitude expedition or a weekend walk in the local hills. These robust all-season, all-arounders pitch quickly and easily, can be taken down and moved in a flash, yet are far stronger and lighter than any other tent in their class.

Because of their superb strength to weight ratio and compact footprints, both the Nammatj and Nammatj GT have become immensely popular with extreme users, such as polar travelers looking to save weight, mountaineers doing remote routes in the highest ranges, professional guides, and military special forces teams. But these same characteristics are just as highly prized by more “regular” users, as well: backpackers, cycle and paddle tourers, and anyone needing maximum strength while reducing weight."

I'm looking to buy a bigger tent with two doors that will cope better in autumn and winter. At the moment I'm only thinking about UK use but who knows.