Is it out of order to post 'conversations'?

I dunno Graham, maybe pop one of your horrible house tracks on while no one's listening? ;) har har

You still in Liverpool ginge? I'm coming up Fri Aug 14th...

nah matey, though I'll be in the Wirral that weekend as it goes. Are you visiting Platini?

Yes, I might swing by Chester to put some dogshit in his letterbox

No, I'm going up for the first game of the season - Everton v Arsenal :-)

Away win. ;-)

Probably, every opening game I've ever been to we've always got beat, home or away :-(

Dov & Pista 4ever?

raises hand

Some unsavoury PM's* flying about at the moment from 2 tits that should know better

Bad form helmets

*Not to me mind...

Am rapidly approaching the point at which I will purge the forum of a number of people.

PIstanator, quit being a dick... you should stop sending PMs yourself if you want others to stop sending PMs. You know, act as you would have others act, that whole kind of thing.

And I was dismayed to hear this morning that wiganwill has advised cliveo that he isn't welcome in the community any longer. Will, you have absolutely zero right to make such a statement, you couldn't do so in the name of 10 people, let alone the 13,000+ active members, and you certainly don't do so in my name.

All this behind the scenes backstabbing is so fucking cowardly. You should honestly all be ashamed of yourselves. You're just pathetic.

What's clear this week is that two little factions have emerged, but people in both should be very very careful. For I favour neither, and if either causes trouble or continues to have people act like jackasses then both will be banned.

Too many people want this place to survive and be a good place. And the sum of all people taking sides are not contributing to that in any way. Instead of getting all meta, taking sides and being general jackasses, how about you all STFU, get on your bikes, and go outside and ride. Then come back knowing that is what the community is about, not this jackassery.

None of you are even letting my anger subside before you've managed to post again and make me fume again.

Pisti, shut it, vent at Souths party if you need to

VB don't go outside on your bike its fucking miserable (*looks around forum) fuck it get your coat it can't be that bad

;)

Why doesn't everyone understand, the best thing for them individually, the best thing for their faction/friends, the best thing for the community.

Is just to walk away from the arguments, and let bygones be bygones and move on.

Bearing grudges, acting like children... it's becoming of no-one and reflects badly on everyone.

I was dismayed to hear this morning that wiganwill has advised cliveo that he isn't welcome in the community any longer

normally not interested in forum handbag shite but what a preposterous cunt.

(did 65 hilly miles on the bike yesterday, hope that's o.k. with everybody)

Clive isn't that bad, he is just going through a rough time

(did 18 miles in skiddy skid traffic with ipod on shuffle)

Clive isn't that bad, he is just going through a rough time

poor chap, now he's at home a lot he has to load the dishwasher and unload it as well! FFS!

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And I was dismayed to hear this morning that wiganwill has advised cliveo that he isn't welcome in the community any longer. Will, you have absolutely zero right to make such a statement, you couldn't do so in the name of 10 people, let alone the 13,000+ active members, and you certainly don't do so in my name.

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Yeh. I am dismayed to hear that since there is no truth in it at all. And I am quite happy to let you see the PMs between me and Clive so that you can see that for yourself. On the other hand; you want people to chill out, to relax? And then you go and make that allegation in public without asking me about it first knowing full well it is based on private conversations?

they were probably arguing over the worth of Orwell and Derrida and things got out of hand.

All I'm getting is noise, and all I want is silence. I realise that what I hear is always biased by the person telling it, and I realise that as the vast majority of communication is private that there's always going to be a black hole in my knowledge of what's going on.

It's a lot easier for me to deal with situations when nothing is happening (i.e. no situation), then it is for me to pick through the fragments of always strongly biased info I hear.

You want me to PM first, but then so does everyone. There aren't enough hours in the day and so to be fair I PM no-one involved. I'm not the arbitration process for the forum, I'm the admin... I just run it technically. Ultimately the people here should be able to resolve their own differences without me being involved, but when it starts to look like a turf war and people are acting pissy, expect everyone to be dismayed and just want to knock heads together.

Don't ever expect me to go personally asking people involved, I never have and never will. Why? Because I shouldn't even be in that position! Don't act in such a way that I am in that position or you feel you need me to, it means you've already fucked up in some way.

I'm so fucking angry. Why you all can't STFU... hell, the only way I think it might be possible IS to ban you all. It's as if you all collectively want me to.

bloody cyclists....

You are not the only one who is angry. I have not brought my conversations with Clive to your attention or said anything about Clive in public. It's nothing to do with me that you are now part of it. But you are because you made an unsubstantiated claim about me in public - and again, it is complete bollocks - and then complain when I respond to it in public.
You can say something very unpleasant about me on here and I am not to respond?
Then don't say that thing in the first place.

Thats my last public word on this. ok?

people get angry about what other people post on an internet forum? hilarious when you think about it.

Thats my last public word on this. ok?

Sure, I hope it's mine too.

If people aren't able to resolve differences long before it reaches me, then no-one should expect me to comprehend or respond fairly. I hope I've set enough precedent that people realise that if I'm invoked in this context that they'll just witness a bull in a china shop (with a banhammer).

It's best that everyone (Pistanator this specifically includes you) work out all differences and quit winding each other up and bitching behind scenes (apparently a few people have done this) long before it gets to the kind of fever pitch it has in the last few days.

Storm in a tea cup ultimately.

Like everything in the middle east - this could all be solved with a bacon sandwich and a cup of tea.

And probably a couple of beers.

and maybe a hug (no cock touching)