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• #2652
Or just get some cheap Tiagra hubs and leave it at that.
that is exactly what I have done 32 spokes. Surprisingly smooth for a cheap off the shelf wheel though I can feel it is not that stiff when pushing it up a steep hill
I will send my Royce hub back and see what they say. The certainly aren't bombproof.
they aren't even Mike proofWell those wheels lasted 8 weeks before going completely out of true. That's a record for me though
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• #2653
What the fuck dude? who build that wheel?
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• #2654
Fuck knows Straight off the shelf from Cycle Surgery I think.
It matters not what wheel I use. Give me any rear wheel and I guarantee I will have fucked it up in under 2 months .
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• #2655
OTP wheels likely to requiring truing after a while, I thought you got it build up by someone.
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• #2656
^^^ Mike, get them wheels built by Sam at LMNH. What do you think why the place looks like this with wheels from the ceiling?
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• #2657
So is it worth buying mid level (£3-500 to be specific) road wheels or am I better off not bothering? This is for all-round club riding on essex roads and the odd 10m tt and road race.
Quite like the idea of building up a set using the aero 'flo' rims above - anything has to be better than my current bargain basement fsas... -
• #2658
Pacenti SL23 looked good to me when I saw them on Friday.
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• #2659
I'm thinking about doing something like Dt swiss 350s to the flo rims,depending on how much they are that could come in at about £300-400 dependingon straight straight pull spokes or not and which spokes are used, and lead to a prettyhigh quality wheelset
the 350s have the same internals as the 240s and have the benefit of beingavailible in 24/24 straight pull, and i've been suckered by the flo aeroez
If anyone ends up odering from Flo let me know as once i have the money together I'll be buying them and postage/customs will be much lower in a group
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• #2660
So is it worth buying mid level (£3-500 to be specific) road wheels or am I better off not bothering?
For racing, I wouldn't bother. I've seen no evidence that anything under about £1000 (Cosmic Carbone, Zipp 101 for examples of where spending £1k does actually get you faster wheels) is faster than Shimano RS31, although the Flo30 might be the exception. For the odd 10 mile TT, £500 is most of the way to getting you some Raltech covers and a second hand Hed3, and not much at any price is going to be a lot faster than that. For road racing, you want something cheap enough that you don't burst into tears when they get smashed in the inevitable pile-up, so maybe drop down from the bling RS31 to the more affordable R501-30 :-)
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• #2661
or cheapo chinese carbon tubs (definitely won't explode/kill you with fire)
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• #2662
Unless you're mike.
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• #2663
got some new wheels off someone in my club (C4 CA 3.0s). noticed there's a little lateral play (<1mm) in the rear wheel. checked it's securely tightened. what could it be? cones? just the way it is?
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• #2664
They will be cartridge bearings so if there is play they are probably farked and need replacing
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• #2665
5 wheels in just over two years is just not funny any more
That's pretty bad going. Couldn't you get some hand built 36/36h on some strong rims?
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• #2666
For racing, I wouldn't bother. I've seen no evidence that anything under about £1000 (Cosmic Carbone, Zipp 101 for examples of where spending £1k does actually get you faster wheels) is faster than Shimano RS31, although the Flo30 might be the exception. For the odd 10 mile TT, £500 is most of the way to getting you some Raltech covers and a second hand Hed3, and not much at any price is going to be a lot faster than that. For road racing, you want something cheap enough that you don't burst into tears when they get smashed in the inevitable pile-up, so maybe drop down from the bling RS31 to the more affordable R501-30 :-)
They both seem quite heavy to me (although I take your point about smashing them up). Then again, I'm pretty sure I could lose near enough a race bike's weight with a bit of effort...
or cheapo chinese carbon tubs (definitely won't explode/kill you with fire)
Was contemplating something along those lines - maybe the planet x 'aero' wide tubs?
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• #2667
Fuck knows Straight off the shelf from Cycle Surgery I think.
Get them built buy a real person who'll stand by their work.
A burly, wide v shaped rim like the velocity chucker might survive. A friend has just ridden from Greece with 70kg of luggage on those without any issue.
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• #2668
how much do you weigh Mike?
Call Harry Rowland!
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• #2669
They both seem quite heavy to me
The extra 500g over some 'light' wheels will be swamped by the extra spoke drag if those light wheels are 20/24 rather than the 16/20 of RS31s. Unless you're building a hill climb bike.
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• #2670
I'm thinking about upgrading the wheelset on my Canyon Roadlite from the stock Mavic Aksiums (weighing in at 1735g) for some Dura Ace C24 (1395g).
Is a saving of 340g decent for the £600 price tag? The only thing is, I know no different - this is my first road bike and therefore first wheelset. Any comments from anyone who has taken a similar upgrade path and whether or not it is worth it would be really helpful.
EDIT: Got the weight of the Mavics wrong
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• #2671
RS81 C24 are identical rim, hubs, spokes and nipples but DA just has a Ti freewheel that saves weight where it doesn't make any difference and DA branding.
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• #2672
Have Shimano sorted their shit out and increased the rim width of their wheels yet?
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• #2673
If weight is to money is what you are after then i'd recommend these:
Rear hub: http://www.bikehubstore.com/SL210-p/sl210.htm 210grams
Front hub: http://www.bikehubstore.com/product-p/ulf66.htm 66grams
Wide Rims* x2: http://www.bikehubstore.com/C472w-p/c472w.htm 980 grams
Spokes: http://www.bikehubstore.com/product-p/zscxr.htm 252 grams for a 28h front and rearTotal of 1448grams and $408/£245 plus LBS wheel build £50
*for comfort mainly
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• #2674
If you swap comfort for even lighter wheelset then you can save 214 grams with these non wide rims (also cheaper): http://www.bikehubstore.com/Kinlin-XR200-Rim-p/xr200.htm
I have a BHS hub on Kinlin XR200 wheelset on my road bike and its great. These were built by Fitzrovia Cycles.
Disclaimer: I weigh 73kg
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• #2675
RS81 C24 are identical rim, hubs, spokes and nipples but DA just has a Ti freewheel that saves weight where it doesn't make any difference and DA branding.
That's really interesting - thanks for the info.
And you can buy Flo30 rims separately now, which cuts your shipping and customs charges, plus reduces the risk of damage in transit and lets you have a free choice of locally sourced hubs and spokes.