"Old skool hooligans bikes" anyone know anything?

Oh dear. Aroogah P.I. strikes again

My bikes are cheap, a bit different and basically a way to have something nice & comfy to ride around on and stand out from the crowd. I'm not trying to cash in on the single speed craze at all, it's just my bike only has one gear so I need to make that clear - in no way is it a machine for abusing at speed around town. It's for cruising.

From my cynical view, you are absolutely cashing in on the single speed craze or whatever you want to call it. Especially calling it a town bike or a cruiser.

We're only just starting up so obviously don't have the spending power of Halfords, so of course you could go in there & buy a mountain bike for £120 but it's not going to be in the slightest bit cool, it'll just be a tool (as you would be for buying one).

So you're a tool if you buy a bike from a reputable shop with hundreds of stores, that can afford to sell things cheaply because they buy in huge bulk, yet you're cool if you buy a cheapo steel "cruiser" bike that is sold cheaply because it's cheaply made.

For the same price as your bike, you can get gears, brakes and an alu frame.

The bikes are made in China - but that doesn't really mean anything these days - virtually all budget bike components are made there - it's very easy to buy some custom components on eBay & make it exactly as you'd like it - for not much money.
Good point.

Plus it has a steel frame which is a rarity these days.
You're right, that's because steel is cheap, outdated, obsolete and heavy.

It's a shame that the UK Government puts a 48% import duty on them or I could sell them for about £30 less.

So your £120 bike is really worth £90 ?

I've sold almost 140 now and probably only had 1 or 2 complaints - mainly that it's a bit bigger than people expect or from small components failing under extreme use by people not using it in the manner to which it is intended.

what components fail? will you be beefing them up?

At least it's my own creation rather than the nasty single speed matt black things you see on eBay which try to be something they are not.

In what way is it your own creation? you stuck a sprung saddle on it? you chose the colour?

imo, it's exactly the same as a unipack on ebay, but cheaper.

it's not going to be in the slightest bit cool

and yours are???

You're right, that's because steel is cheap, outdated, obsolete and heavy.

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Don't say it too loud, my bike might hear...

Can we drop this single speed craze bolloxs!?

There have always been tons of single speed bikes about, the fad now is the fancy bright colours and clean lines. got nothing to do with the gearing, its all fashion

They don't look amazing but for the money and they will last the time it takes a buyer to fall out of love with the fad. if they have a good knowledge of what they want to ride i am sure they wont buy one. it's good work if you ask me

If i could make money selling bikes i am sure i would.. as would a lot of you. jealousy is a biitch eh!?

The only thing i don't get is why the road drop outs if you are building single speed bikes?

because they're cheaper.

They look like those bicycle speedway bikes from Archie Wilkinson

If i could make money selling bikes i am sure i would.. as would a lot of you. jealousy is a biitch eh!?

Go and work in a bike shop then?

Do you really have ambitions to sell cheap bikes for £40 profit to non cyclists? If so, you can get a load of unipacks and sell them on the market.

or maybe I'm just bitter from the seething jealousy.

non cyclists?

Can you define non cyclist?

I agree with Slag, this guy is doing nothing wrong. The bikes aren't amazing but they are cheap - get over it.

There are lots of non-premium goods in the world; do you want to go on a crusade against everything not-so-great?

Can you define non cyclist?

Someone who doesn't ride a bike.

Someone who doesn't ride a bike.

But they've just bought an old school hooligan!

+1 I fucking love this image. In fact I wish the Tshirt would be this. With a bit of text saying something like 'what's your problem, Pistanator?'

I've noticed that this is all you ever post these days Ma3k. Is it permanently in your clipboard?

Bu they've just bought an old school hooligan!

ah but they only become a cyclist once you have sold it to them.

+1 I fucking love this image. In fact I wish the Tshirt would be this. With a bit of text saying something like 'what's your problem, Pistanator?'

I've noticed that this is all you ever post these days Ma3k. Is it permanently in your clipboard?

Just sums it up succinctly without all the blah, blah, blah.
I wonder what the admin of http://www.livinginperu.com/ makes of it?

One more time for the people:

Go and work in a bike shop then?

Do you really have ambitions to sell cheap bikes for £40 profit to non cyclists? If so, you can get a load of unipacks and sell them on the market.

or maybe I'm just bitter from the seething jealousy.

There is a market for them. i am sure given the chance and resources he would make top end Brittish steel frames, the outlay and risk is that much greater. You don't start out with a known brand name and without alignment with racing teams this way to sell bikes and build a brand in the current econimic climate is pretty spot on.

Bianchi produce Puch bikes, they were always cheap as fuck and nasty builds - look at them now!

you have to start someplace and I'd rather start on a achievable business than a slow demise of soul eating jealousy ;)

The only thing i don't get is why the road drop outs if you are building single speed bikes?

singlespeed bike tend to have horizontal dropout thought, unless I'm missing something?

they do but these have semi vert drops with deralier hangers? a new conversion

I can't say i like the name. It's bleak and ill informed.

I can't say i like the name. It's bleak and ill informed.

I like bleak and ill informed

I've seen about ten of these, or the same one ten times. Orange.

every time I see one I will think of this

in fairness, that's a cheap bike that doesn't look that awful, to be bought by people who don't know masses about bikes and don't have masses to spend. that is a definite market and definitely better than buying something stolen from brick lane. it really does look like it's made from tin foil though and to disguise it slightly, i think there should be a white bike pump to slot into it's appropriate holder on the seat tube.

Would I buy it - no.

Is it a cheap way to get to try fixed - yes.