Building From scratch

More on fit

]www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit The stuff on knee over pedal is not evidence based , but on the whole this a good start. The other view on KOPS is that centre of gravity and weight distribution are more important. Its also a bugger to do.

Go to the Rivendell Bikes site , yes its Tolkien inspired, for how to measure your PBH

Then try the Dave Moulton frame chart for top tubes and stems sizes - go to his webiste and find it from there , However, he tends to go for smaller sizes than the colorado method by 2cm > Either that or I am atypical. My view now is that if you go for a higher saddle height than the heel on the peddle method, then you need a bigger frame than Dave reccomends.

]Don't be afraid of the higher position, but move it up gradually.

To be honest matey I'd be tempted to stick around and see what people are selling on here

Most of us tend to accumulate bike parts like squirrels store nuts

Then our women folk get fed up of living in a bicycle workshop

Withhold sex

Forcing us to part with all our little gems

Not being funny

but I could build you a bike by tomorrow

with the stuff I have tucked away

Do us a 57cm track framed bike for £150, will ya? ;)

thanks peter carter some really good advice :D doubt il need to ask about bike fit again :D
how much should i spend on a frame? £250 - £300? (£800 budget in total)

thanks peter carter some really good advice :D doubt il need to ask about bike fit again :D
how much should i spend on a frame? £250 - £300? (£800 budget in total)

Could get yourself a Bob Jackson Vigorelli for £345. Brand new in a colour scheme of your choice.

http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=307
Not exactly an original choice, but they are great to ride and the geometry is really nice (IMHO as happy Bob owner).

Then maybe £155 on a set of wheels ie.

Suzie promax SB 32H £30/(rear) £35 (front) here
http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Rear_231.html
http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Front_232.html
Rigida Aero rims £23 each
http://www.parker-international.co.uk/11147/Rigida-DP18-700c-Rim.html
Competition spokes £44 for 80
http://www.parker-international.co.uk/5245/DT-Swiss-Competition-Silver-14-15g-Spokes.html
(if you build them yourself)

thats £300 left for drive chain and finishing kit.

You could build a lovely bike from quality new parts for 800 notes.

NB: My build started like this and ended up just over £1k (I Blame Campagnolo)

Hey thanks for the advice smallfurry i did see a bob jackson in the current projects thread (?) beautifully paint scheme il see if i can find it!
EDIT - its was in the bike porn thread
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Hey thanks for the advice smallfurry i did see a bob jackson in the current projects thread (?) beautifully paint scheme il see if i can find it!
EDIT - its was in the bike porn thread

REALLY WANT TO GET A FRAME JUST LIKE THIS!

£475 - http://www.londonfgss.com/thread15863.html

Hey thanks for the advice smallfurry i did see a bob jackson in the current projects thread (?) beautifully paint scheme il see if i can find it!
EDIT - its was in the bike porn thread
REALLY WANT TO GET A FRAME JUST LIKE THIS!

Yep, a really nicely put together bike. As Pifko states thats a special edition frame with fork and trackend upgrade, and costs a bit more.

The miche gruppo on that (hubs and chainset), are considered to be top value for money though. Definitely worth considering.

The thing is £800 will buy you a lot of bike in the fixed gear world. So its worth taking time to look at the options.

Thanks for the link :) shame about the BLB 'signiture' on the frame and £100 does seem a quite alot extra for just a slightly different paintjob, i think il wait it out looking on the bay and on the for sale list hunting vintage style track frames :D thanks guys

Its not just the paint. The geo is different, the seat tube is fluted, it has different dropouts and the fork crowns are different too. Im sure there are some other things.

oh yeah face palm but still i don't think i have enough cash on my budget to spend that much on a frame at that price :/

This is a good place to check for vintage frames. Some beauties turn up here occasionally.
http://matuzmaster.hu/en/

Thanks for the link smallfury, what sort of prices should i expect?

Not sure if this is your size:
http://www.londonfgss.com/thread20388.html

Yeh saw that commented 'porn worthy' its quite a bit too small though im 5'10" so looking for a 54/55cm frame

Thanks though :)

Thanks for the link smallfury, what sort of prices should i expect?

The trouble with anything 'vintage', is the price is basically what people are willing to pay at the time. Which at the moment is a lot. I was quoted 300-350 euros for a few different frames in good condition. At framesize 54/55 (quite common), you may struggle to steal a bargin on E-Bay, but its always worth a shot. Worth keep an eye on this thread.
EBay finds - http://www.londonfgss.com/thread6-263.html
(ED: The guy who runs the hungarian site is very helpful, if you have any enquirys, I'd drop him an E-mail)