G20 demonstrations

-The Government plans to raise the state pension age to 68, this means public sector workers will have to pay more into their pension fund, get less out of it and work for longer.

The public sector workers with their infamously fucking amazing pension that rewards them something like 3 or 4 times as much as a private sector worker who has paid for it? Ones who can't even afford to pay into their own fucking pension schemes?
What about all the private sector workers? Won't they have to pay more, get less out of it and work for longer too?

The Hyde Park occupation is in its essence an autonomous village. Its purpose is to serve as a safe space for people of all backgrounds to hold workshops, plan actions, rally peoples assemblies, camp and rest after actions.

All backgrounds? Including Eton, Oxford and a high-flying career in banking? That's very egalitarian of them. What about those with a background in SO19?

The public sector workers with their infamously fucking amazing pension that rewards them something like 3 or 4 times as much as a private sector worker who has paid for it? Ones who can't even afford to pay into their own fucking pension schemes?
What about all the private sector workers? Won't they have to pay more, get less out of it and work for longer too?

All backgrounds? Including Eton, Oxford and a high-flying career in banking? That's very egalitarian of them. What about those with a background in SO19?

How witty and inteligent a post, well done

About as witty and intelligent as the resist26 website.

You can't start a revolution if all you can come up with is a disparate collection of gripes about stuff in general, which can be written off as "grrr!". You need a cohesive argument about what you are against, and what you are for, and a solid plan of what you intend to achieve and what alternative you offer. You need something that people can get behind and support, that has some basis in reality.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23941306-court-rules-on-g20-protest-kettling-case.do

Have they charged the cop for beating Ian T yet?

Have they charged the cop for beating Ian T yet?

That was done and dusted months ago, he was not charged.

The inquest is ongoing. There was a very interesting day of medical evidence yesterday, summarised here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/18/ian-tomlinson-inquest-death-heart-attack-disputed

Today's action--live blog:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/19/ian-tomlinson-inquest-live-updates

The inquest is ongoing

The inquest is ongoing, but the charges against the officer were dropped months ago.

The inquest is not a trial, ie: the officer is not on trial and the inquest is not looking to find the officer guilty or not.

That was done and dusted months ago, he was not charged.

Really? I ask because they were showing footage of him being pushed down which I don't recall seeing before and the case still seemed to 'in progress'. It was alongside the kettling case.

The inquest is ongoing, but the charges against the officer were dropped months ago.

The inquest is not a trial, ie: the officer is not on trial and the inquest is not looking to find the officer guilty or not.

So they've said he's not guilty but there's an inquest to establish what exactly?

If the inquest finds that the cop caused the injuries that killed Ian, does Ian's family get to start a new case against the cop?

So they've said he's not guilty but there's an inquest to establish what exactly?

The CPS dropped the charges against PC Simon Harwood in July 2010, he's not on trial.

The inquest is a broad investigation to establish how and why Ian Tomlinson died as well as the police handling of the day, the investigation into his death, along with the various questions surrounding the pathologists findings and so on, basically a very broad review of everything that led up to his death, the death itself and all that followed.

If the inquest finds that the cop caused the injuries that killed Ian, does Ian's family get to start a new case against the cop?

I suppose they could bring a private prosecution, but it's very unlikely they would have the money.

i.e. it stinks.

Really? I ask because they were showing footage of him being pushed down which I don't recall seeing before and the case still seemed to 'in progress'. It was alongside the kettling case.

The High Court ruling on kettling is not part of the inquest into Ian Tomlinson's death.

There is no case in progress, like I say the CPS decided no charges would be brought against Harwood last summer.

So they've said he's not guilty

A clarification, he was not found guilty or not guilty as there was no trial.

How did they know not to have a trial if the inquest into the chain of events that day is currently in progress?

Is it not possible for the CPS to re-open the case? The inquest is going very badly for the copper and the forensic evidence has been discredited.

How did they know not to have a trial if the inquest into the chain of events that day is currently in progress?

You don't have an inquest before we** decide whether to go ahead with a case !

(**"we" here being the CPS)

How did they know not to have a trial if the inquest into the chain of events that day is currently in progress?

Because "they" set out to make sure that the copper was not found guilty.

(I feel vaguely dirty talking about the establishment in this way, conspiracy theories and tin-foil hats and so on, but this is an out and out stitch up of justice)

So, again, the law is not an ass but an arse.

Simon Harwood looks a little like wiganwill.

Just sayin'

Ian Tomlinson was unlawfully killed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/may/03/ian-tomlinson-inquest-verdict-live-blog

The director of public prosecutions, Keir Starmer, who decided in July last year not to prosecute Harwood for manslaughter, will now be under intense pressure to reverse that decision.

An official Crown Prosecution Service review of the decision not to prosecute Harwood is now under way.

This is one of the saddest pictures I've seen for a long time:

                                                            ![](http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/5/9/1304947044932/Ian-Tomlinson--007.jpg)

"Ian Tomlinson tries to find a way past police at the G20 protests shortly before his death in April 2009."

Tomlinson police officer to face manslaughter trial.

Yes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13519281

at last!