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  • I have an HTC Desire and would never buy HTC again. The phone is a piece of shit and is now in for repairs as it won't stay on for more than 5 seconds.
    I don't want to buy a jesusPhone though and am beginning to think all these smart phones are overrated now. I have a £10 replacement and it just works and never needs charging

  • yup, done more reading and comparing, looks like i'll just buy it outright and keep my sim. my only worry is data and i'm still on the same contract as when the iphone launched, ie unlimited data

  • I bought my 4 outright, renewed a tmobile contract, so now pay £5 a month for 500 minutes & 600 texts, with unlimited internet.

    brap.

    Any ideas how much I can expect to get for a 32gig 4, no nasy marks, pretty pristine...

  • Tesco:
    12 months
    £335 upfront
    £25.00 / month
    250 minutes
    5000 texts
    1gb data

    Lifetime contract cost: £635

  • I'm gonna bow out and apologise for reaction.

    Quite an interesting read if you can get through...

    http://www.stephenfry.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs/

    'It is a very dismal business when a great personality dies and the world scrabbles about for comment, appraisal and judgment. I have been asked in the last 24 hours to appear and to write and to call in to join in the chorus of voices assessing the life and career of this remarkable man. But what was Steve Jobs? He wasn’t a brilliant and innovative electronics engineer like his partner and fellow Apple founder Steve Wozniak. Nor was he an acute businessman and aggressively talented opportunist like Bill Gates. He wasn’t a designer of original genius like Jonathan Ive whose achievements were so integral to Apple’s success from 1997 onwards. He wasn’t a software engineer, a mathematician, a nerd, a financier, an artist or an inventor. Most of the recent obituaries have decided that words like “visionary” suit him best and perhaps they are right.

    As always there are those who reveal their asininity (as they did throughout his career) with ascriptions like “salesman”, “showman” or the giveaway blunder “triumph of style over substance”. The use of that last phrase, “style over substance” has always been, as Oscar Wilde observed, a marvellous and instant indicator of a fool. For those who perceive a separation between the two have either not lived, thought, read or experienced the world with any degree of insight, imagination or connective intelligence. It may have been Leclerc Buffon who first said “le style c’est l’homme – the style is the man” but it is an observation that anyone with sense had understood centuries before, Only dullards crippled into cretinism by a fear of being thought pretentious could be so dumb as to believe that there is a distinction between design and use, between form and function, between style and substance. If the unprecedented and phenomenal success of Steve Jobs at Apple proves anything it is that those commentators and tech-bloggers and “experts” who sneered at him for producing sleek, shiny, well-designed products or who denigrated the man because he was not an inventor or originator of technology himself missed the point in such a fantastically stupid way that any employer would surely question the purpose of having such people on their payroll, writing for their magazines or indeed making any decisions on which lives, destinies or fortunes depended.

    It would be vulgar to say that the proof of the correctness of Jobs’s vision is reflected in the gigantic capitalisation value of the Apple Corporation, the almost fantastically unbelievable margins and the eye-popping cash richness which has transformed a company that was on the brink of collapse when Jobs arrived back in 1997 into the greatest of them all. All this despite low market share and an almost fanatical attention to detail and finish which would have 99% of CFO’s weeping into their spreadsheets.

    “In most people’s vocabularies, design means veneer. It’s interior decorating. It’s the fabric of the curtains and the sofa. But to me, nothing could be further from the meaning of design. Design is the fundamental soul of a man-made creation that ends up expressing itself in successive outer layers of the product or service.” Steve Jobs in an Interview with Fortune Magazine, 2000.'

    humm what irks me is that the say Jobs designed everything. when it seems to me is that Jobs would come up with the idea, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Ive is the one who designed everything

    "He is the leading designer and conceptual mind behind the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac."

    i think jobs gets to much praise for whats come out of apple sometimes,
    when my boss tells me he was a tee shirt with a lion on it and a football, thats his idea, but i'm the one who has to design it

  • I'd say he was a headinajar kinda guy.

    I didn't even know he was Iranian.

  • That Stephen Fry piece is bang on. I'm not one of his sycophantic followers but it is. He's rarely far off the mark.

    I love seeing the LFGSS machine work through these events, all the smugness seeping out like hot diarrhoea.

    The hysteria is lame but is anyone really claiming that Apple hasn't been influential and that that isn't largely down to Jobs and his people? Although the adulation of shiny objects grates, the only aspect I can take issue with is the supposed sweatshop/suicide thing (which I haven't taken the time to actually look into).

    Whether you're a fan of Apple kit or not (I don't claim to be but I do love using my iPhone and MacBook), you have to hand it to him. I don't know why we have to be such arseholes about it all. Do we enjoy pointing out that people weren't actually all that great? I completely understand why anyone would find the media wankstorm ridiculous, but he himself always seemed quite a likeable bloke.

    Sorry if I've missed something (possibly the dead slaves?).

  • humm what irks me is that the say Jobs designed everything.

    that's clearly bollocks, where did you read/see/hear that?

  • That Stephen Fry piece is bang on. I'm not one of his sycophantic followers but it is. He's rarely far off the mark.

    I love seeing the LFGSS machine work through these events, all the smugness seeping out like hot diarrhoea.

    The hysteria is lame but is anyone really claiming that Apple hasn't been influential and that that isn't largely down to Jobs and his people? Although the adulation of shiny objects grates, the only aspect I can take issue with is the supposed sweatshop/suicide thing (which I haven't taken the time to actually look into).

    Whether you're a fan of Apple kit or not (I don't claim to be but I do love using my iPhone and MacBook), you have to hand it to him. I don't know why we have to be such arseholes about it all. Do we enjoy pointing out that people weren't actually all that great? I completely understand why anyone would find the media wankstorm ridiculous, but he himself always seemed quite a likeable bloke.

    Sorry if I've missed something (possibly the dead slaves?).

    well put.

  • i thought the creative review piece summed it up quite well. if you don't work in that area and you are an I.T. geek then his influence is minimal apart from being some counterpoint for your rational I.T. thinking.
    http://creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2011/october/steve-jobs

    the shine/public grief thing is cringeworthy though as it was for doe-eyed dodi fucker diana, that druggie soul singer, jacko the monkey fucker and numerous other famous people who died.

  • Someone in the comments section compares him to Eames. The best comparison I've heard all week. I'll be stealing that for an appropriate beer-swigging moment later today.

  • you sexist cunt.

    forgive my remark if you were referring to Ray :-)

  • My MacBook fucking died last night. Think it's the hard drive.

    It obviously couldn't bear being in a world without God

  • Or Steve Jobs had an impish sense of humour and planted an easter egg to be activated on his death?

  • I bought Nokia 6310i. It's brilliant!
    Now I have an iPhone 4 to check the weather and BBC News and Nokia to talk to people.

  • Or Steve Jobs had an impish sense of humour and planted an easter egg to be activated on his death?

    This did occur to me.

  • ... without any fuss, the Macs were turning off...

  • that's clearly bollocks, where did you read/see/hear that?

    "Commentators and tech-bloggers and “experts” who sneered at him for producing sleek, shiny, well-designed products"

    i took that to mean he is talking about the people who seem to think jobs designed everything, negative and positive sides of that, of witch there is an alarming amount of people who think this.

    in my experience.

    and in articals published that say things like 'the man who invented the ipod'

  • It's not about who invented what - it's about putting things in good use and selling them to people.
    Look at Tesla - invented everything possible, but beaten by Edison and Marconi. And FBI.

  • I'm taking my MacBook into apple on Wednesday. If it's buffered and will cost a lot to fix I'm considering the possibility of buying a iPad to replace it.
    Has anyone got one as their main device without a laptop? I don't do any writing or photo editing so I'm struggling to see any disadvantages......and its a hell of a lot cheaper than a MacBook pro.

  • but Johnathon Ives is the one who designed everything

    Dont mean to be picky or anything, but do you REALLY think a multi-billion dollar corporation like Apple would leave all of the design decisions up to just one person??

    Its no more Jonny Ive behind the design than it was steve Jobs. Both undoubtably have/had their influence on the process but there are probably hundreds of industrial engineers/designers at work on any one future apple release at any one time.

  • If I know anything about creative directors it's that they spend a lot of time looking over designers shoulders going mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm AMIRITE??

  • Dang, just read that Siri's only available for the 4S for the time being. Was looking forward to never having to type a text again.

  • I'm taking my MacBook into apple on Wednesday. If it's buffered and will cost a lot to fix I'm considering the possibility of buying a iPad to replace it.
    Has anyone got one as their main device without a laptop? I don't do any writing or photo editing so I'm struggling to see any disadvantages......and its a hell of a lot cheaper than a MacBook pro.

    I have one which I use almost exclusively. The Netbook hardly ever gets used.
    I tend to use it for mail, web, reading books, PDF manuals and comics, making notes with Evernote, making spreadsheets with Numbers, knocking up musical ideas with Garageband and watching movies and TV shows.
    I think you still need a real PC or mac. The iPad is not a desktop replacement (It has not Flash, and having no user-accessible file system as such it can't even download many files from the web), but it is a laptop replacement. I still have a powerful desktop for music production, image editing, huge filestore for MP3s (and the iTunes is shared so I can play them on the iPad - with Airport Express plugged into the stereo. nice)

    However, I have found it enormously useful to make sure I always own at least one OSX machine (my Netbook is a hackintosh) to edit PDFs on.
    Preview makes rotating and cropping single pages really easy, and a lot of PDFs have an image format that doesn't work in iBooks. Opening them in Preview and saving them fixes these problematic PDFs. Some apps also have iOS "extras" (such as the comic book reader I've got which has a really nifty iOS app to transfer content). I also keep one old Windows XP laptop, for reading those troublesome (especially copy-protected) discs that won't work on Windows 7, plugging in old devices (e.g. anything with a serial port).

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