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• #5727
Unique Selling Point, something that differentiates it from what's existing.
I was thinking steering hub, steering linkage, cable actuation, loading area, that sort of thing...
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• #5728
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• #5729
They've literally taken a Bullitt and replicated it in steel. The construction is the same. It's just made from ERW steel box section.
This looks like a Bullitt processed in Minecraft
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• #5730
Hope the welds at the back of the cargo section are good. That's a lot of tension going through those bottom ones if you put 100kg + rider on it!
I like the pink though. Maybe I need to spray mine pink
/slips off to Montana
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• #5731
In case I was not clear enough I completely agree with you, it offers nothing new, it's just a bad copy.
Now I need to Google ERW ;-)
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• #5732
Electronic resistance welded
Cheap mild steel tube
I am glad we agree
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• #5733
Loads of copies around, thats just the latest one. Like that they went to that same park with the wavy white lines on tarmac that LVH shot some of their official photos on a few years back (or crap, maybe actually Omnium that used that location).
I wouldn't worry, many copies exist, often pricing is really not far off genuine and no accessory support, they naturally come, and then die out again.
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• #5734
Well the construction is what sets the Bullitt apart. They manage a very stiff and strong construction with a very low bed. It is definitely different than a regular long John
I think what pisses me off here is the marketing and lack of actual design in the product although they claim the the founder "designed it". He didn't. Hans from Larry Vs. Harry did. LameI am out
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• #5735
Box progress for mine. Much measuring took place. Uprights cut to desired length and crossmembers added. Seat position front-to-back and height is adjustable. The seat base and squab are going to be mounted on t-slot nuts so they’ll also be adjustable to make the seat bigger as J69_jnr grows. Dims: 850mm long and 500mm wide.
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• #5736
Looking good. What’s the plan for the shell?
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• #5737
I agree with you completely!
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• #5738
That wavy white line park is around the corner from Omnium and LvH's old warehouses (which used to be almost next to one another) so it's funny that another brand probably went out of their way to get that 'classic cargo' shot.
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• #5739
Ah that makes sense.
Bullitt frames are what you say, stiff (enough), light (very compared to r+m, ua etc, only douse is similar) and they can do the miles.
Couriers only break the newer gen frames from encounter with heavy solid objects and vehicles. They used to fatigue and crack at the seat tube but they fixed that like 8 years ago, maybe more.Some magazine test last year stated they were too stiff and unsuitable for kid carrying, i mean, yeah in comparison to a car. It's like what they wanted was a floppy noodly frame?
Anyways, loads of decent cargos out there to choose from, consumers will decide who survives and who doesn't.
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• #5740
Ply base and sides with curves roughly based on those Bullitt plans that were posted a while back.
3-year old’s imagination has literally been in overdrive over this today. Immediately knew what it was for this morning, and filled the bare frame with cushions and jumped in. All the hinges and adjustable bits all became levers. Great to watch!
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• #5741
My cargo bike is a steel copy of the bullitt which I made when we were expecting twins and couldn’t afford to buy one. A few slight differences like a larger frame size and the tube from bottom bracket to headtube goes all the way to the front of the cargo bay but exactly the same geometry. However companies blatantly ripping off the design is a poor show IMO.
I’ve got on really well with it but I did get a chance to ride a proper bullitt when I was in london with work and the difference is incredible, the bullitt is soooo much stiffer and feels faster. 100% if I could’ve afforded one back then I would’ve bought it straight away
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• #5742
This is it too, cost of entry is super high. Have a mate who is working on something made in uk that will hopefully bring that cost down, let more people get on cargos.
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• #5743
Progress.
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• #5744
Looking good!
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• #5745
needs moar adjustable bits aka levers
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• #5746
is that floor engineered wood or laminate?
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• #5747
15mm thick laminate from Wickes. Chucked down on the cheap because we want to move, but actually would recommend it!
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• #5748
Looking great. Be interested in the weight once complete. How thick is the ply your using?
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• #5749
Frame weighs 5.8kg. I’ve calculated the ply is going to weigh 9.5kg. That’s 12mm base and 9mm sides, 12mm seat base and 9mm back. So add in the fasteners and the curvy bits and it’ll be around 16kg.
If I was still at Red Bull I could probably get that down to around 2.5kg if I made it in carbon. And I’d probably get Aero to cast their eye over it as well. Sneak it through the big claves as an R&D experiment on a common cure with some car parts and it probably wouldn’t cost any race wins etc either.
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• #5750
Hey, I made a thing for hauling stuff to places.
Most of it uses parts from a hand truck company and the arm is from a trailer manufacturer that offers diy kits. Worked really well, if a little noisy due to the microcellular foam wheels. I built my own because I couldn't find a trailer that a) had a platform that sat above the wheels and b) was easily extendable and c) in my price range. The pins hold a short section of alu tubing that can be switched out for any other length. The plastic box fits nicely between the supports with the attached wood battens, and then can be strapped on. Probably cost me about CAD 250-300.
The frame is rated for 500 lbs...
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It looks shit and it is a rip off. Hope noone on here buys one