Why Are Aussies So Hated?

Advice from the Blue Mountain Boys:
Hmmm we’re not sure but you could ask the bike shops in Thirroul or Wollongong
You could rent one in Bondi bikes and take down there.
Thredbo rent bikes but it’s far.

Cheers- I went and had a chat with the guys in the Clarence Street Cyclery, their view was that without a car to get there I was hosed, so I’ll try to get out to Manly Damn next weeekend with a rental.

You could also try calling cyclery Northside in Chatswood, they do demo rides... Think they're paid for but you can take the bike all day... I think. They'd know about rentals too. Or Cranks in Chatswood, they are normally helpful. Are you in Sydney now?

Also, get in the water, it's still 22°c out there.

Brrrrrrr

I am in Sydney until a week today (and Melbourne and Brisbane during the week).

You can get to Loftus by train, it's on the T4 line after Sutherland

Showing us how a hostile environment really works:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/25/manus-island-asylum-seeker-who-set-himself-on-fire-to-be-charged-with-attempted-suicide

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Isn't every airport like that? Apparently London is owned by HSBC...

So accurate... 🤬

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-67110193

Yeah. Sucks.

If we have learnt anything from referendum results is that it is the perfect target for wreckers to sink their crowbars in via misinforming and undermining campaigns and the populus can't really be trusted to make an informed choice.

Calling for a referendum on this was a huge mistake.

As a non-citizen I don't really get a say, but it sucks all the same.

Well the aboriginal people get fucked over again.

But the Aboriginal people were only classed as Aussie, sorry voting rights, in 1967 after a referendum. What they were before then, you tell me.

I think the technical term here was "ward of the state".

See Albert Namatjira getting granted full citizenship rights in 57.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Namatjira

Being the first to be granted citizenship rights in 1957, still does not paint a great picture. How may aboriginal people got citizenship in the ten years till the referendum?

Maybe the locals should have been a bit more violent in stopping the invasion and destruction of their land and culture.

Look up the lost children and all the legislature to 'protect' aboriginals.

How do you come to the conclusion that I'm trying to paint a great picture?

Of course Albert Namatjira did exactly that, and it made him a hugely important figure in the recognition of aboriginal people in Australia.

I was pointing to the article about him as a reference using the term "ward of the state" and a source that illustrates the hardships aboriginal people in Australia faced.

I think whether they fought back or not aboriginal peoples got massacred, given the forces they were facing. Read up about the "frontier wars" if you want to learn more about that shameful chapter in Australia's history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_frontier_wars

Not painted by Albert Namatjira, but one of his cousins, this is an example of a painting in the Hermannsburg School style.

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I apologise, I am not blaming you for anything. Am blaming people in general as they are fucking shite to other groups. Unless you personally did all this. Which you didn't.

Am chatting about the situation.

Have had the fortune to meet a few aboriginal artists visiting the UK, spend a few days talking and listening. God that sounds pretentious, but was more a humbling experience.

Stopped reading about what went on as the more I read the more I was ashamed. Not sure I would (read that as quite sure I would not) be as understanding and accepting. Is that the right Word as I suspect it isn't.

It is easy for us to talk about this. We have a privilege ;) just talking.

What is the point you are trying to make? One person becomes famous and gets citizenship. Took ten years and a referendum for all of the people who were there first to get some rights.

Unless you personally did all this.

Well. Nobody alive today did. But plenty are holding an apologist / revisionist / indifferent stance towards historic crimes committed.

Like I said, I'm a non citizen here. I have an outsider's view on all of this. But I also hail from the country that gassed the Jews. Dealing with collective inherited guilt is something that was part of my upbringing. Although looking at recent political development in my home country one could say that lessons seemingly learnt can be forgotten also.

Which brings me to my point above: in the current society in many Western countries, with the erosion of trust and accepted truths, referendums seem to be a vehicle to the very bottom of the pit. The pull that the wreckers have on society via scare campaigns, targeted misinformation, cynical twisting of words, social media and outright lies is something that modern society seems unable to counteract.

What is the point you are trying to make? One person becomes famous and gets citizenship. Took ten years and a referendum for all of the people who were there first to get some rights.

Exactly this.

And not only that but he got treated very harshly in the NT afterwards, still, fame or not.

I've been depressed about the result all week. It sets this country back a long way.

That ^ was me. New phone login fail.

All you needed to say was “this place isn’t as good as it used to be” and we’d have recognised you.