Why Are Cyclists So Hated...

If they put their hand in the fire, would you?

No but i will stand up for my right to move around the city. One way systems are damaging to our cities and ought to be ignored. the particular route in question is an obvious desire-line for cyclists coming in to town from Hackney, which needs good routes as public transport is DIRE in Hackney. However this direct back street changes one-way priorites twice within about 100 yeards, leading to another back street that has three changes of one-wayness. I will carry on using it. in both directions.

I'm trying to pro-actively hate all car-drivers in an effort to even things up...
Who's with me?

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I'm trying to pro-actively hate all car-drivers in an effort to even things up...
Who's with me?

Me easy, I fucking hate everyone anyway.

...and what per centage of motorised road users?

Probably less because you can't just go out buy a car and start driving.

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that was actually my first thought, but then i thought id try and be a little bit diplomatic ;)

check the two responses to this article. some pure anti-cyclist anger.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23645630-details/Cyclists+call+for+car-free+Sundays+in+the+capital/article.do

But not every cyclist rides on the pavement nor carves up pedestrians at crossing. People generalise and they generalise because they are inherently racist.

@MrSmith

clive that's obvious.

look at the opening question and my answer again with your beady legal-eagle eyes.

why are cyclists so hated? not why do you (me) hate cyclists?

"if i was a non-cyclist i think those would be the reasons i would give"
based on what are the most obvious things cyclists can do to piss off other road users.

Is he a cyclist? If he's a cunt and a cyclist he might have the answer already.

he's a cyclist, and does a lot of good cycling stuff, like commentary for the smithfield nocturne, stuff for the new condor team etc..

I've met him and he's no more of a cunt than any of you lot (actually, he's a lot less of a cunt than most of you lot! )

I'm surprised he's entered into the cyclists/drivers "debate" on his show as that stuff is usually left to the vitriolic bullshit the other presenters deal in.

Me easy, I fucking hate everyone anyway.

i'm in. i hate cars. hate then for breakfast. hate them for lunch. and hate them for tea.

Why Is Elms a cunt? As far as I'm aware he's very pro cycling. Apart from being a bit of a mockney, I can't see what he's done wrong?

possibly beacuse at least 50% of cyclists on the road are clueless idiots?....just a thought....(awaits torrent of abuse...)

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99.9%

basically everyone except me.

and even I have the occasional off day

I wouldn't take what I say as indication that he is or isn't anything... I was just hypothesising by merging the thoughts of the first two posts to create a witty response. I don't know the guy, and I don't really think anyone's a cunt. Not least because I'm a bit hippy like that, but also because I dislike the female anatomy being used as terms of degradation.

Isn't it because they are sat in jams whilst we whizz past them at high speed metaphorically flicking them the Vs? They've spent all that money on a car expecting to drive freely on beautiful roads like in car adverts then reality hits when it takes them an hour to drive 5 miles across London.

Or watching cyclists jumping lights and ignoring all road laws whilst the driver is wishing they could do that without getting a fine in the post.

Maybe.

Probably less because you can't just go out buy a car and start driving.

No same proportion, there is no anti cunt test to get a driving license. The drivers are a pretty good statistical cross section of the community, most of the the community are completely retarded fucking wankers hence so are most drivers.

...and what per centage of motorised road users?

at least 110%, perhaps more.

Why Is Elms a cunt? As far as I'm aware he's very pro cycling. Apart from being a bit of a mockney, I can't see what he's done wrong?

not even a mockney, he actually seems to put on a posher voice for radio..even posher when he does R4 stuff, much less so for London!

anyone in his position who's that pro cycling, and misses no opportunity to mention it at every chance, cannot be bad, really.

robert elms invented cycling. and radio.

clive that's obvious.

look at the opening question and my answer again with your beady legal-eagle eyes.

why are cyclists so hated? not why do you (me) hate cyclists?

"if i was a non-cyclist i think those would be the reasons i would give"
based on what are the most obvious things cyclists can do to piss off other road users.

MrSmith.

As always, I entirely agree with you. Those are the reasons that people give. Every time I have a conversation about cycling I am told of the occasion a month or two ago when a cyclist made someone take evasive action while walking on a pavement or at a pedestrian crossing. Each time I recount the five or six occasions that day when pedestrians have stepped out in front of me but assure them of my love for my fellow man including pedestrians. The root cause of hatred to all cyclists is the inherent failure of people to see others as individuals but as stereotypes. People are inherently racist, homophobic and otherwise intolerant and prejudiced. People that is, apart from that 20% of cyclist among whose company we find ourselves.

[Yes the irony of the final sentence is deliberate]

How can he be a mockney - he was born and raised in London.

No same proportion, there is no anti cunt test to get a driving license. The drivers are a pretty good statistical cross section of the community, most of the the community are completely retarded fucking wankers hence so are most drivers.

Oh I know that, but a cunt in a car will still be a cunt when he gets on a bike, the levels of cunt-ness i'd say are about even for cars/bikes.

However because drivers do have to take a test the do have to have a decent ability (at least at the time of the test) whereas anybody who's never seen a road before can jump on a bike and go. As a result you tend to see a higher proportion of cyclists who seem to be lacking brain cells.

I wouldn't take what I say as indication that he is or isn't anything...

I know, I was just using your post as a heading to address the masses.

I basically used you, abused you and discarded you, sorry Dave.

People are inherently racist, homophobic and otherwise intolerant and prejudiced.

I'm not I hate everyone equally.

Or watching cyclists jumping lights and ignoring all road laws whilst the driver is wishing they could do that without getting a fine in the post.

Maybe.
I see motorists doing exactly the same on a daily basis. The difference being they are driving a ton of metal.

Elms is a London-centric corpse rapist.

As a cyclist, car driver and pedestrian, everyone hates me.

Thank goodness I'm not a banker.

... welcome to my world. I tick all 4.