2009-05-24 Sun 12pm - LFGSS Track Day 3: Edge of Tarckness... at Herne Hill Velodrome

@teenslain - you free this evening? I'll be at HH from about 6:30 and imagine Rob and JC will be around too.

I'm looking at a flat 'round the corner at 6 but could pop down straight after that... I agree with Ed, the programme you and Rob came up with for the second track day was pretty much spot on... I'll let Mrs Slain know I'll be late for supper... Chicken cacciatore BTW...

we had devils and scratch races though.

but no points races, so might be a good inclusion this year to confuse the judges

perfect for HH then
I can't imagine many people being happy with a 150+ km race.

+1 for a 10km scratch, would it be ok for a mass start, for everyone, or could we do it hare and hounds for a &B cats? (not that over 10k its going to be possible to give the hare enough of an advantage but it would encourage people to get involved)

150km may be pushing it a bit but 20km should keep you interested object?!

i reckon scrap the devil, i dont like them

also, shirely points races are going to be too complicated for people racing for the first time?!

i don't understand points races.
and don't call me shirley.

alright Donut!

Spring Omnium had a 20k lap scratch race from memory. looked punishing.

i don't understand points races.
and don't call me shirley.

You are as thick as you look then? ;p

In a points race, there are points available to the first 3 riders to cross the line on designated sprint laps, normally every other lap on a 12 lap race at HH. The rider who accumulates the most points in the race wins.

I was looking at the velodrome site and it mentions not being able to ride bikes with either brakes or non-drop bars.

Is this the case for induction sessions and more importantly for the track day on Sunday?

From http://www.hernehillvelodrome.com/faq

"However, if you ride your bike on the road normally, you will be
required to remove any brakes as they are not allowed on track. Drop
handlebars are also required as opposed to any cow-horn style bars that
some people use on road-going fixed wheel bikes."

I was planning on riding my bike which has both a front brake and riser bars. Getting the brake off shouldn't be too hard but I only have the one set of bars...

Has this been a problem for anyone?

Sorry if this has already come up and I missed it

Devils are a bit dangerous with inexperienced riders, and points races are really hard on the judges - so weigh that up. If you can't guarantee more than at least 2 or 3 judges on the line every lap I wouldn't bother with a points race.

Ed's idea of a long hare and hounds sounds perfect. 20k is 42 laps and I dunno how keen people would be on that, but at least 10 or 15k. Plenty long enough to ensure that the hares get caught, but I'd stick in a prime after 6 laps or so to make it worth their while to hammer it.

By the time they get caught everything will be nice and spread out for some of the hares to merge in. Should work well.

don't get rid of the devil, i like it...

150km may be pushing it a bit but 20km should keep you interested object?!
I prefer plan B.
Go for a decent ride in the morning on the road bike then head to HH on the way home so that I can have a couple of cold beers and enjoy the show.

That FAQ page is a bit of a mess - it needs sorting out.

You can pick up an old pair of drop bars from someone on here for dirt cheep no doubt. Make sure they have bartape or grips of some sort as well as bar-end plugs.

I was looking at the velodrome site and it mentions not being able to ride bikes with either brakes or non-drop bars.

Is this the case for induction sessions and more importantly for the track day on Sunday?

From http://www.hernehillvelodrome.com/faq

"However, if you ride your bike on the road normally, you will be
required to remove any brakes as they are not allowed on track. Drop
handlebars are also required as opposed to any cow-horn style bars that
some people use on road-going fixed wheel bikes."

I was planning on riding my bike which has both a front brake and riser bars. Getting the brake off shouldn't be too hard but I only have the one set of bars...

Has this been a problem for anyone?

Sorry if this has already come up and I missed it

I was looking at the velodrome site and it mentions not being able to ride bikes with either brakes or non-drop bars.

Is this the case for induction sessions and more importantly for the track day on Sunday?

From http://www.hernehillvelodrome.com/faq

"However, if you ride your bike on the road normally, you will be
required to remove any brakes as they are not allowed on track. Drop
handlebars are also required as opposed to any cow-horn style bars that
some people use on road-going fixed wheel bikes."

I was planning on riding my bike which has both a front brake and riser bars. Getting the brake off shouldn't be too hard but I only have the one set of bars...

Has this been a problem for anyone?

Sorry if this has already come up and I missed it

Check the first post of the thread, has all that useful info. Bike requirements and gear suggestions.

sorry, missed that edit - thanks

GAH! I forgot my sis is over to visit and flies out of Gatwick at 6. Hoping to bring her along (both watching) for a bit then get her off to Brixton and come back. Will probably miss a chunk of it but I'm determined to get in as much as I can, HH2 was ACE even just as a spectator.

oh dear I'm driving a Derny for at least 70 laps of Reading that day, oh well I do hope the weather's kind to us all- enjoy!

I know my arse will be sore on Monday - sitting upright on a Rolls saddle for the best part of an hour isn't the way its meant to be :-(((

I have done no training what-so-ever but what the hell..

Last year I ran 47 x 13 (95GI) but I am not feeling very fit at the moment, can anybody loan me a 14 tooth cog?

1. teenslain
   
2. Ved (keen as mustard)
   
3. Sainsburys (i will buy hillbilly a beer for every time he beats me in a race)
   
4. Cornelius (Mid Pack Obscurity) Blackfoot
   
5. Greasy Slag all over your BOING
   
6. Object
   
7. mikec ( Planning to go on holiday in may, cause i am scared)
   
8. stelle
   
9. pajamas (might be drunk, might be stewed, to not come at all would be quite rude)
   
10. andyp (in the Bergkamp role)
    
11. CG lover
    
12. gustav
    
13. adoubletap
    
14. gizmond (luckily that number was free and it is the one printed on my jersey :-) )
    
15. fruitbat (DFL)
    
16. Aroogah (Guaranteed 3rd lap elimination from the Devil take the hindmost race)
    
17. mashton
    
18. MrSmith (i'm real, & such a cunt)
    
19. Nick (my legs are twitching already)
    
20. jaygee (I also have a itch, but that has nothing to do with cyling)
    
21. fatboyralph
    
22. Jacqui
    
23. Charco Darko
    
24. Pinkgottimobbs
    
25. Mobidog
    
26. brendon_a
    
27. stevo_com :- YOINK, not racing though, watching hard
    
28. Spencerwells (Big willie styles)
    
29. 50/14 hopefully on an NJS nag
    
30. badtmy
    
31. JDSH
    
32. scared of drops-trum
    
33. BlueQuinn
    
34. tricitybendix
    
35. wools
    
36. pj (pj)
    
37. fred
    
38. Oliver Schick
    
39. Wibble
    
40. hillbilly (on his new track demond!!)
    
41. Dogsball
    
42. tom.
    
43. DirtyD
    
44. Ant
    
45. but not RPM
    
46. dulwichrider (who doesn't live in dulwich)
    
47. Gina (really want to come, but not sure if I'm in the country that weekend...)
    
48. 50/14 (Got a nagging feeling)
    
49. jaygee (race you on my CR)
    
50. last_caress I'll smoke you fools.
    
51. Aleksi
    
52. johnny h[/quote
    
53. coppiThat
    
54. Babydinotrackboy (yes deff coming this time!)
    
55. Krisz
    
56. kisu_shimo (fuck yeah!!!)
    
57. Nick (make room for the mushroom!)
    
58. VeeVee (probablee)
    
59. Andy
    
60. STE5
    
61. Daccordi Do we have a date yet?
    
62. taogeogheganhart
    
63. TT Tom
    
64. town
    
65. JOL. gotta make this one.
    
66. Turd Furgerson (was trying to hold out for 69)
    
67. Johnny_Tang_888 (67, that's my age!)
    
68. samuelglanville (youth is on my side)
    
69. Max72
    
70. MA3K
    

if i go i will have to take cisco if i go. can i leave my bike at someone's house the day before. the person must live near HH so I can get it on the day as i will be going by train. thanks!

Paul, would you like a lift Sunday? I am happy and qualified to ride the derny for keirins if needed as long as I get a go in one keirin race myself.

I am happy and qualified to ride the derny for keirins if needed as long as I get a go in one keirin race myself.

But most aren't 'qualified' to ride behind it. We paced with a bike last year, seemed to work fine.

[I want to ride behind a derny please, who's gonna cover the insurance for the none BC members? ]

I'll be down to watch I expect.

Tika - if you don't get a better offer you can leave a bike at my place (3 mins walk from HH station).

this is perfect i met you once at the christmas party.
i will have to take it sat or friday, is that ok?

Hey coppithat, is that HH from Olympics? amazing!!

i think one of the pics was a good friday meeting and the other was another race meeting in the 1890's