Dont Psyche out your friends...

Perhaps your bike.

Your a funny guy.

No seriously... Will I have to pay for this guys rear window? Do cyclists need insurance to be on the road?
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Of course you should. It was your fault and you smashed the window.

I am pretty sure if an uninsured car hits an insured car there is some kind of £££ available from the government or something to get the damaged car fixed up.
Is that true or am I spouting pure mouth excrete?

That is kind of true but the uninsured person gets a fine + points on license meaning bigger insure cost when they do get cover e.t.c The money comes from a % contribution from all motor insurance policies so it's not that same for a cyclist as you are not required to have insurance hence cyclists are not contributing to the fund plus there are none of the fines e.t.c.

I don't think insurance for cycling should be mandatory as then you would have to have insurance for walking e.t.c but when you fuck up you have to take responsibility.

problem is... I dont have any £££ to give this chap.
I am what could be called 'strapped for cash' right now. problem.

Well you may have to come to an arrangement of £5 a week or so for x many weeks.

P.S I don't care about the no brakes thing but if you fuck up for what ever reason you need to take responsibility. If you have not got the money that's an issue for you to sort out not someone else.

the owner of the car will lose their no claims bonus and therefore have to pay more for their insurance be a man own up to being an idiot and pay for the persons window...end of the day you broke it.

If you havent got the cash to pay, then why post up pics on the internet?

The only reason to ride without a front brake is because it looks cool, there are so many idiots riding around brakeless in London at the moment, who clearly have no clue what they are doing.

If you want to go brakeless fine, but make sure you have the skills to pay the bills because it yours and others road safety you are fucking around with

The only reason to ride without a front brake is because it looks cool, there are so many idiots riding around brakeless in London at the moment, who clearly have no clue what they are doing.

I'd love to tail one of these dudes around for a bit, see what happens.

be a man own up to being an idiot and pay for the persons window.

Did you not read what I wrote? "me=dickhead" is that not me 'owning up'?
Do you think I wanted to put my face into this guys car?

I was completely foolish for riding so close and I hope to never be in that situation again.

I will pay for the window but I wanted to know ( perhaps from people who have an insight ) if there were any other options... I now know this is not the case.

If you havent got the cash to pay, then why post up pics on the internet?

why not?

why do you think?

Anyway do you have any sort of personal health insurance that may have a clause for things like this? They might be able to help . . .

I think one of the big problems at the moment is that loads of new people are joining the fixed thing, seeing the brakeless thing too and going brakeless along with the fashion for fixed without having any of the skills the original brakeless guys were secretly hiding all along. If you look at someone like John Maek riding (brakeless) the guy will jump around like butter on a hot griddle dealing with 'emergency' situations - his bike handling is so obviously the product of years of hard riding and it's just not possible to switch to fixed from an 'ordinary' bike, go brakeless and hope to ride with the same skill. I think a lot of the newer guys who go brakeless are doing it without taking the concept seriously - ie riding slow enough to deal with any traffic situation that might suddenly happen around you. If you ride with a brake with brakeless guys who know what they're doing there will be times when you are going much faster through shit than they are. They allow for space and time and 99 per cent of them aren't at the stage where they've just learned how to do a skid.

When you say "She stopped ( abruptly I might add ) in the middle of the road to let another car come through..." was there a stop sign or traffic light? Or was she just being polite and letting somebody through?

This is one of those "grey areas" although I have been told (by the police as they took me to the hospital) that allowing oncoming traffic through out of courtesy is illegal.

However as you were not riding a "road legal" bike, you are instantly in the wrong.

I think one of the big problems at the moment is that loads of new people are joining the fixed thing, seeing the brakeless thing too and going brakeless along with the fashion for fixed without having any of the skills the original brakeless guys were secretly hiding all along. If you look at someone like John Maek riding (brakeless) the guy will jump around like butter on a hot griddle dealing with 'emergency' situations - his bike handling is so obviously the product of years of hard riding and it's just not possible to switch to fixed from an 'ordinary' bike, go brakeless and hope to ride with the same skill. I think a lot of the newer guys who go brakeless are doing it without taking the concept seriously - ie riding slow enough to deal with any traffic situation that might suddenly happen around you. If you ride with a brake with brakeless guys who know what they're doing there will be times when you are going much faster through shit than they are. They allow for space and time and 99 per cent of them aren't at the stage where they've just learned how to do a skid.

Spot on

Cheers for all your input gentlemen...

Im off down cash converters.

just post an ad in the Argus?

large chest for hire (no wait that doesn't work does it..)

If you ride with a brake with brakeless guys who know what they're doing there will be times when you are going much faster through shit than they are. They allow for space and time and 99 per cent of them aren't at the stage where they've just learned how to do a skid.

1+ I remember with the ride you, fred, asm and I did last september, asm was way behind us, but for obvious reason.

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well yeah the obvious reason being asm's naturally slow...

jooooooooooooooooke......................

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I think a lot of the newer guys who go brakeless are doing it without taking the concept seriously - ie riding slow enough to deal with any traffic situation that might suddenly happen around you.

I know didley squat about riding brakeless, so I could be way off the mark, but....

I see quite alot of pictures of fixed gear bikes on the internet with no brakes, and what looks to be biggish gearing. I often wonder if people ride these as seen, or if they are set-up for the pics (brakeless track bikes with big chain rings look hot, IMHO). Alot of people start out with too high gearing. Combining this with no brakes sounds lethal.

(Discalimer: General brakeless comment, not directed to OP)

but those bikes with big chainrings are track bikes... on the road it would be nuts - like, just totally insane - to ride something brakeless like, ooh, just pulling something out of the air, I dunno, 50/14 for example..

I was thinking of track bikes made for road riding (with lets say 80").

Although I have heard of people riding their track bikes to the track, as a kind of pre
race warm up. I imagine these guys are pretty careful though

My bike's made for the track and doesn't have any brakes... "BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!"

your bike pretends it's made for the track..

pfft.

Just in-case any you were interested as to the outcome of this...

I have just been to see the a3 owner and we have agreed that I will give him £195 for his rear wind shield and he will not charge me for his dented boot door... as he says "it wasnt all your fault".

£100 on friday
£95 next month.

Smashing my head into an Audi A3. Done.

how was it not all your fault? just wondering as when driving a motor vehicle if you crash into someone it is the person behinds fault as you should leave sufficient braking distance.