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I'm slightly surprised that someone of MDCCs vintage could average 186bpm for a 10. Wonder what he could average in his youth.

Oddly enough, pretty much the same. My resting HR has come down about 15bpm since I bought my first HRM in the late 1980s, but my max has stayed resolutely around the 205 mark.

As stated, HR data is useless to anybody but the individual (and not all that helpful even then), but it's still fun to scare the nippers with my ludicrously high numbers.

This BAR idea looks as though it's a goer. I think we now need a face to face meeting in a pub somewhere. We need to discuss what we want to do, and who is going to take responsibility for doing what. I'm prepared to do some of it, but not everything.

I guess somwhere central would be best - we need a place where we can hear each other speak. Any suggestions?

I can't do Thursday or Friday evenings, and I would prefer not Saturday or Sunday.

Over to the rest of you.

I wouldn't be surprised if it takes six months to arrange said meeting! Can't we just thrash it out on here?

Having said that, I'm struggling to find a 50 that I can fit around my bizarrely hectic home life :0(

Oddly enough, pretty much the same. My resting HR has come down about 15bpm since I bought my first HRM in the late 1980s, but my max has stayed resolutely around the 205 mark.

As stated, HR data is useless to anybody but the individual (and not all that helpful even then), but it's still fun to scare the nippers with my ludicrously high numbers.

I've only just started using a HRM, but this might explain why I can do an easy ride but still have an average HR of around 170bpm (I'm 38).

This BAR idea looks as though it's a goer. I think we now need a face to face meeting in a pub somewhere. We need to discuss what we want to do, and who is going to take responsibility for doing what. I'm prepared to do some of it, but not everything.

I guess somwhere central would be best - we need a place where we can hear each other speak. Any suggestions?

I can't do Thursday or Friday evenings, and I would prefer not Saturday or Sunday.

Over to the rest of you.

I may have to video conference you, long way to come from Yorkshire... Right. If it's happening I need to get another 25 entered and a 50. Handbook here I come...

So what's the deal with this BAR thing? I have to do a 50?

I've got a base 25 time but I will definitely improve on that (hopefully...LOL).
Doing plenty of 10s at Hog Hill on Tuesdays.
Don't fancy a 50...

50? Barely warmed up..

So what's the deal with this BAR thing? I have to do a 50?

'fraid so. Can't really have a 3-distance contest without including at least a 50.

5, 10, 25?

shops, pub, work?

200m flying start, 1000m and 4000m pursuit, and lets include scratch, points and Devil too.

Or we could just stick to the standard distances we all know and love*...

*amount of love for 50 mile TTs may vary

3.2, 6.4, 24.85

200m flying start, 1000m and 4000m pursuit, and lets include scratch, points and Devil too.

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<<< No love for the 50 here.

so short distance people hate 50s and so do long distance people. perfect!

50s and 12s are the two worst I reckon.

50 miles is at the extreme limit of how far you go properly fast - beyond about 90-100 minutes of high intensity work, you can't ride on stored energy, so you have to take on fuel during the race, which makes for a whole different kind of race. That also explains why the seriously fast blokes barely slow down between 25 and 50, since they are completing it in under 100 minutes, while the rest of us still have half an hour to go.

On the one hand, riding a 50 at your 100 pace is easy, but not good enough. On the other, riding one at your 25 pace poses a real danger of bonking in the last quarter* of the race. Hence nobody likes them.

*a bit like the Kilo - anybody can ride flat out for 45s, the champion Kilo riders are the ones who don't die on their arse in lap 4.

^^ I'm up for that. I know all of them, love the first two, not so much the 4k

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<<< Pointy hats

50 metres is at the extreme limit of how far you go properly fast

trufax

Lot's of what Zipp like to call "Yaw" out there today, and I'll call wind.

A couple of times the front wheel waggled in gusts- made life interesting.

I've got generic Chinese 50mm rims- no toroidal shaping here (not until the FC rims hit the photocopier in Xiaman anyway).

So- anyone running Fire Crest? If so, are they better in the wind?

anyone running Fire Crest? If so, are they better in the wind?

A couple of people on ttforum have reported that the 808 Firecrests and latest Hed Jet 9s do provide more stability in cross winds, as claimed.

This BAR idea looks as though it's a goer. I think we now need a face to face meeting in a pub somewhere.

Oh, it's a Beer All-Rounder? Maybe I'm in, after all.

I've got generic Chinese 50mm rims- no toroidal shaping here (not until the FC rims hit the photocopier in Xiaman anyway).

Be interesting to see proper tunnel results..

"The second surprise was that an aluminum Roval wheel (not a deep section wheel) with a conti tire (GP4000S with chili compound) was significantly faster than a cheap 50mm carbon rim with a conti sprinter (chili compound, not the gatorskin version). It's one reason why I really don't encourage people to buy cheap carbon wheels off ebay."

http://robbellracing.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/using-golden-cheetah-aerolab.html

Oh, it's a Beer All-Rounder? Maybe I'm in, after all.

In.

Be interesting to see proper tunnel results..

"The second surprise was that an aluminum Roval wheel (not a deep section wheel) with a conti tire (GP4000S with chili compound) was significantly faster than a cheap 50mm carbon rim with a conti sprinter (chili compound, not the gatorskin version). It's one reason why I really don't encourage people to buy cheap carbon wheels off ebay."

http://robbellracing.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/using-golden-cheetah-aerolab.html

You have just saved me £400. Thanks.

I'm planning on popping by the Bexley 10 again this week if anyone's heading out. Hopefully get there on time as well...