Time Trial / Time Trialling / TT

It's miles away but the point isn't necessarily the loss of a fast course it's the bullshit precedent for removing bicycles from a road that's clearly not 'unsafe' for bicycles.

I am definitely objecting.

Rubbish.

~6 cycling incidents
~270 car incidents

Why don't they ban cars?

Because roads are for cars innit

Roads are for me.

Fuck the NIMBYs.

I'm not basing my decision on the incidents.
More that, why would anyone want to cycling on a busy duel carriageway, when there are perfectly nice other roads.

At the same time as banning cyclists (and other slow moving traffic), they should also be banning fast moving traffic from certain roads, and reducing town centres to 20mph.

It's not just about time trialling on fast roads.

I'd never ride on the E2 not in an event.

That said, some single carriageway courses are more dangerous than doubles. And a lot of people for +60mph and then there are lots of blind corners.

More that, why would anyone want to cycling on a busy duel carriageway, when there are perfectly nice other roads.

I'd never ride on the E2 not in an event.

I don't think many people ride the V718 in training.

Why would people cycle anywhere there are cars? Ban bikes from one road it's easier to ban them from others. Eventually all you're left with is shitty B roads and sparse segregated paths or mountain biking and no one wants that.

I often choose dual carriageways to ride on because they're the quickest most direct way to get from town A to town B. Why should I now be banned from using the roads my taxes pay for? It's bad enough I'm not allowed to use Motorways - they'd really help my travel times.

"In the interests of road safety... " they're banning bikes. That's arse about.

Except bicycles are banned from the A1. Where the F25 was, and no one cried (so loud).

People are just upset because they won't be able to inflate their time trial prowess.

And that's kind of the point isn't it, it's not a nice road to ride.

Neither is the E2 and you'll still happily ride that in a race? I pop onto the A31 to get home a bit quicker towards the end of a ride sometimes, but I won't plan a ride on it.

When was that road banned?

Any road with cars on it is not "nice" to ride. When do cars every contribute to a better riding experience? Why do you race on the E2 if you won't 'ride' on it?

I don't want any road banned to bikes. It's encouraging the creeping death that cars are the right thing to be using and should not happen.

Fair point. And if it were banned, then so be it.

As I said before, some single carridgeways are more dangerous than double. Theres a 25mile TT around here on a single road that I won't use training. It's fast and flowing and not many people do less than 60. With a quite a few blind but fast flowing corners too. I'd rather ride the E2.

IT was banned maybe 4 years ago, I did my first 25 on it.

I'm not saying I want the road banned. Just expressing that I can understand why.

I don't think cyclists have the right to cycle everywhere. Just as I don't think cars have the right to drive everywhere.

The fact is, no one would really care about this road being banned to cyclists, if it weren't a time trial course, and a very fast one at that.

So you're happy to sit back and watch some NIMBYs with no actual interest in your safety ban a bunch of roads? The you're limited to racing on SC roads, some of which you say aren't as safe as the DC? Tell me again why it's not worth kicking a fuss about bicycle road bans?

I have no recollection of it being banned. Perhaps if I'd have known about it I'd have written opposing the ban.

Is it that we wouldn't care or is it the fact that if it wasn't a TT course most of us would have zero knowledge of the proposed ban?

It's worth objecting, on the grounds of reducing precedence, and that their reasoning is poor. All I said, was that I can understand why people would want to ban bicycles, and that if it were not a time trial course, and a very fast one, no one would care.

I said duel carriageways can be safer to make the point, that they're not necessarily unsafe, simply because traffic is fast flowing.

Is it that we wouldn't care or is it the fact that if it wasn't a TT course most of us would have zero knowledge of the proposed ban?

Both no? No one would really be cycling there, so in fact cycling probably wouldn't be banned as there wouldn't be any busy bodies complaining.

Every bastard driver wants bikes banned from every road because we're "a nuisance", "in their way", "don't pay road tax". Fuck them. It's only because it was mentioned by CTT I knew anything about the proposed ban and just like I objected to the removal of the bike parking in Ealing - if it wasn't on the Ealing Cycling mailing list I'd have no idea it was even an issue. I'll object to banning bikes wherever I can. We need to normalise bike use and remove dangerous driving, not remove bicycles.

I ride bits of the A413 all the time that have had TT courses stopped due to traffic counts (I think). Where does that leave me? If they outright banned bikes I'd still be riding around the Chilterns, lost and living off scraps thrown from car windows...

We need to normalise bike use and remove dangerous driving, not remove bicycles.

Indeed.

fell the same as a lot on here, I'm never going to be driving all the way to hull to ride 10 miles, but banning cyclists from one road is a dangerous precedent so happy to object.

We need to normalise bike use and remove dangerous driving, not remove bicycles.

+1

Forum road trip to knock a minute off all our 10mi PBs and lay some dirty protests around the area?

it's not a nice road to ride.

I've only ridden the V718 once, and it was a nice sunny day, but I thought it was a reasonably nice road to ride down. Definitely nicer to ride on than the single carriageway road I was warming up on. OK, I'd prefer a traffic-free smooth winding road through fields full of mooing cows, but if it was a choice between the A63 and Hundred Foot Bank, I'd take the A63.