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• #102
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• #103
An interesting article on Cycling Weekly's site about HH;
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• #104
fingers crossed
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• #105
Strange how Tessa can get her finger out and take (mostly undue) credit for getting new schools to be built in Southwark, and miraculously intervene when local private schools want to overturn planning regulations, but can't seem to shift a tiny bit of influence over that little strip of land...
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• #106
So Southwark are the problem... they own the access land?
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• #107
The little strip over the other side of the track, yeah...
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• #108
this is very old news and the article is a bit of a nothing really..
this:
The annual Good Friday International is the top event, and there is the Monday Comp and a thriving Summer School at weekends, attracting 100s of riders of all ages.
is out of date and incorrect.edit: I will elaborate.
a. "Top event" is a matter of opinion, though certainly the most well known it is not alone, for instance Muddy Hell was the largest spectator event at HH for a long time, and exemplifies the popularity and potential for HH as an all round cycling facility in addition to the velodrome.
b. "Monday comp" I assume means the monday race league which was abandoned in 2008 due to poor attendance in favour of race training sessions, which proved more popular.
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• #109
So Southwark are the problem... they own the access land?
Southwark council are not soley responsible for the situation, the responsibility lies with Dulwich Estates to grant (someone, BC perhaps) a lease long enough to secure funding which would redevelop the site, replace the buildings and resurface the track.
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• #110
I don't like being moderated.
Ready... steady... ignore.
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• #111
Southwark council are not soley responsible for the situation, the responsibility lies with Dulwich Estates to grant (someone, BC perhaps) a lease long enough to secure funding which would redevelop the site, replace the buildings and resurface the track.
But it's a catch 22 isn't it? DE won't redevelop the site or invest in it, unless they get Southwark to agree the handover of that strip of land, you cheeky Moderating Monkey You*...
- why can't we activate the Spoiler Function in VBulletin, where you can hide extraneous posts
- why can't we activate the Spoiler Function in VBulletin, where you can hide extraneous posts
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• #112
It's not about DE doing anything to the site, and it's not about the strip of land. that's old news and a delaying tactic IMO.
The catch 22 is that we (VCL HH and BC) can't get gov.or lottery funding to do anything with the place unless we have a long lease, DE won't currently grant it.as for modding:
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• #113
But surely DE would welcome a whopping lottery grant (not that they seem to be into capital projects that much anymore) if it supported their desire for a mixed use sports facility there? They can piggy back on the infrastructure developments that would have to take place and save themselves feasibility fees etc.zzz
But I guess this is more pub chat than something actually worth typing.
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• #114
Who knows what drives the whims of the DE...don't forget not everyone who has a vote wants to see a large, busy sports facility next door.
Although, when the head honcho visited in the summer, he was shocked to see how far things had gone with the state of the buildings.
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• #115
Actually, it's just occured to me that they might need to be a bit more transparent with their accounting if they went into a partnership, which they'd probably object to.
As for increased footfall, Alleyn's seem to do very well out of using their school facilities for private profit out of school hours, but I take your point*.
- you merciless moderating menace.
- you merciless moderating menace.
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• #116
Southwark Council are the local planning authority and as such can make the political decision to develop planning guidance (e.g., a Planning Brief or Area Action Plan), which could change the situation and break the deadlock. This will need to be in consultation with stakeholders and is a powerful negotiation tool, but it needs to be handled sensitively.
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• #117
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3158348&origin=BDdaily
There might just be something at the beginning of this article that represents the snail of progress slithering over one more blade of grass ...
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• #118
Fame at last.
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• #119
If you look very closely at the photo.
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• #120
Are these the plans that were approved by Southwark Council in 2003, but never built because of a lack of funds?
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• #121
Yes. You should ask Pete Cattermole about the cantilevered roof idea.
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• #122
Am I right? is this 'new news'? That DE are rumoured to be talking to this company, Studio E?
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• #123
Yes. You should ask Pete Cattermole about the cantilevered roof idea.
Looks perfect for chariot races
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• #124
Here's one of their projects that looks pretty tasty
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• #125
Are these the plans that were approved by Southwark Council in 2003, but never built because of a lack of funds?
Yes. You should ask Pete Cattermole about the cantilevered roof idea.
It does say in the article (quite far down, though):
In 2003, the Friends of Herne Hill Velodrome trust commissioned MHB Design — now MEB Design — to come up with plans which were approved by Southwark Council but never built because of a lack of funds.
it's quite important that people register support for the development of the site as you can be sure that the objectors to the last proposals will be making submissions to this consultation.