Bob Jackson (Vigorelli, etc)

will have a look at it

Look at your bars and look at the bars on rogan's bike and have a think about what you've done

And if you want a brake lever position that works the lever should be parallel to the HT not the bars

So confused, is that a compliment to mine ;D?

I thought i was going to get hate for riser'ing a bob

And if you want a brake lever position that works the lever should be parallel to the HT not the bars

It shouldn't even be parallel to the headtube angle, that'd be way too steep (unless the bike is too short for him and put him in a jackhammered position).

what it should be is in line with your arm nice and straight;

Here's mine

Bob Jackson Olympus Road in Reynolds 853 (Frame) and 725 (Rear stays).

See more specs here - http://velospace.org/node/42777

Nice.

https://www.lfgss.com/picture.php?albumid=2344&pictureid=13618

How big tyres can you get on a Bob Jackson Vigorelli with mudguards. Can you get 700*25?

You should be able to.

I think it's designed for 28mm tyres, so 25mm + gaurds should be ok.

Also depends a bit on rim width. Wider rims should bring the tyre profile down a bit.

I just about managed 32c with a tight fit (some 32c are bigger than other), so as long there's enough track end length, and careful installation, 28c + mudguard are entirely possible.

How big tyres can you get on a Bob Jackson Vigorelli with mudguards. Can you get 700*25?

A Vigorelli with the proper mudguard fittings? I run SKS Cromoplastics and 25C tyres (Open Pro rims) on mine. It's no problem. You could probably fit 28C in but the limiting factor is the rear bridge - unless you've specced the rear brake upgrade the fixing bolt attaches from underneath, i.e. through the mudguard, so the bolt head protrudes through on the inside of the guard and restricts the amount of clearance. You might be able to use a lower profile bolt or a different method of attaching it if you really wanted larger tyres.

Let me know if you want pics.

That Bob is lovely Captain P - what mount is that for your Garmin?

edit: it's an K-Edge, but only for 200,500 and 800 :(

^that looks like one of the rapid prototype job mounts me and Dov got from here, K-Edge is CNC alu.

ah right. Still - they no do 705 crappy mount either. Having it on the stem is really uglying up my bike at the moment...

I just about managed 32c with a tight fit (some 32c are bigger than other), so as long there's enough track end length, and careful installation, 28c + mudguard are entirely possible.

I definitely need 700*25 with mudguards, but 700*28 will be great. I can use a half link chain to fine tune the track end length. I definitely need to add mudguards since I am going to ride it all year and I am going through some parks where they use a lot of salt in winter…

A Vigorelli with the proper mudguard fittings? I run SKS Cromoplastics and 25C tyres (Open Pro rims) on mine. It's no problem. You could probably fit 28C in but the limiting factor is the rear bridge - unless you've specced the rear brake upgrade the fixing bolt attaches from underneath, i.e. through the mudguard, so the bolt head protrudes through on the inside of the guard and restricts the amount of clearance. You might be able to use a lower profile bolt or a different method of attaching it if you really wanted larger tyres.

Let me know if you want pics.

I am not using a rear brake on my current bike but I am going to ask for a rear brake option on the Vigorelli in case I need it in the future. I build my wheels with CXP22 rims which is 20.5mm wide, while Open Pro is 19.6mm so it may give a bit more space.

Some pictures will be much appreciated!!!

ah right. Still - they no do 705 crappy mount either. Having it on the stem is really uglying up my bike at the moment...

I use this in 50mm size. It puts a Edge 500 just infront of the stem faceplate (like an SRM).

Except if SRM sold that mount it'd be £90

I definitely need 700*25 with mudguards, but 700*28 will be great. I can use a half link chain to fine tune the track end length. I definitely need to add mudguards since I am going to ride it all year and I am going through some parks where they use a lot of salt in winter…

I am not using a rear brake on my current bike but I am going to ask for a rear brake option on the Vigorelli in case I need it in the future. I build my wheels with CXP22 rims which is 20.5mm wide, while Open Pro is 19.6mm so it may give a bit more space.

Some pictures will be much appreciated!!!

Will do when I get a chance. Re: position of the wheel, if you use Chromoplastics you can adjust the position of the guard very accurately with the mounting hardware. Also, if you get an extra set of the plastic clips ( http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/sks-secu-clips-for-front-mudguard-stays-per-pair-prod666/ ) you can use them on the rear, which allows you to pop the mudguard stays out, so you can get the wheel out of the rear of the track ends more easily.

^^ Yup.

Some pictures will be much appreciated!!!

Excuse the filth, it's a proper commuter, i.e. it gets cleaned roughly once every six months.

Extra set of the front wheel plastic clips used on the rear to make getting the wheel out easier:

Rear clearance pretty easy to adjust. It's a bit tight at the moment because I've been hit from behind by dozy cyclists a couple of times (and one taxi at the lights) and I haven't bent the stays back properly yet.

Chainstay bridge bolt fitting (lots of room as you can see):

Seatstay bridge bolt fitting - actually a lot more room here than I remembered. Had to drill the mudguard to take the bolt in this way (as opposed to the usual brake bridge mounting. Looks really neat though):

Front guard mount. The front one is actually a fair bit tighter for tyre clearance than the rear. Even with mudguard fittings the Vigorelli still takes a short-drop road calliper (pads right at the bottom on this BR-6700 though) so the Chromoplastics are a snug fit under the fork crown. I cut the top off the mounting slot so that it clears the headset (doesn't look like it from this angle but it is well up past the brake mounting bolt):

Couple of shots from behind the front mudguard, was trying to show the clearance but it's pretty difficult to see. I reckon you could get a 28C in there ok.

Hope that helps. Tyres are Rubino Pro III 25C, rims are Open Pro, mudguards are SKS Chromoplastics, the narrow 35mm size.

The mount generally sit behind the fork rather than the front, i.e. like this, which is probably why the clearance end up a little tighter than usual;

It's a recessed nut, so would have required washers etc. and the bracket still would have fouled the headset in exactly the same way unless it was spaced out a really long way.

In terms of the clearance being tight, I mainly meant that the mudguard itself is slightly wider than the gap between the fork blades, so it's squeezed a bit to fit in, and the brake to rim drop is small for a bike designed to take full mudguards.

All workable though, I'm really happy with the setup.

Not a problem;

The mudguard have a dimple on it for the fork blade, which is currently on the brake?

Sorry for sounding rather like a dickhead which those suggestion thought! if it work, it work, best to leave it.

Not sure what you mean by a dimple - I know some mudguards have a little indent to clear the fork blades but these Chromoplastics don't, so it doesn't matter whether they're mounted to the front or the rear (apart from the latter providing slightly better coverage, with the mudflap lower).

Only reason I've mounted the bracket in front of the fork is that it's a modern recessed nut type of brake, with a short mounting bolt that doesn't protrude from the fork crown at the rear. To mount it from behind I'd need washers with an internal diameter large enough to clear the long mounting bolt and an external diameter small enough to fit in the recess in the back of the crown. Or a different mounting bolt. This was the easiest way by far.

Or one of these:

Again, far too much effort for my lazy self.

Daruma!