Dislezia a friction

Dyslexia rules KO.

Eventually !

Either that or send them to concentration camps.

+1

Let's teach these illiterate bastards a lesson they won't forget.

That'll learn them.

this labour government has pushed the inclusiveness agenda way too much.

i have many friends with disabled (is that still an ok word?) children whose specialist school was closed down so that they could be integrated with their 'peers' at normal school. none have benefitted from this practise and in fact the pupils lives, enjoyment and education have all suffered.

Dyslexia rules KO.

HA! awesome. i want a shirt that says that.

Dyslexia rules KO.

just wait till the NAD (national dyslexic association) hears that

Does it exist that some people are less well adapted to lexical/literacy skills ? It seems fairly obvious that this is the case but 'Dyslexia' (the word) seems to imbue a simple and common failing with some kind of special quality, it seems over medicalised to me.

We over medicalise alot in this country. First off people get paid to do the research, therefore it's in their interest to come up with a funky new 'syndrome'. Secondly, people find reassurance in being 'diagnosed' with a condition, rather than accepting the obvious truth.
To most parents, it's incomprehensible that their otherwise bright kid can't read, especially if they have high aspirations for them.

I watched a program a little while ago (dispatches?) where a prominent researcher into dyslexia had a change of heart and declared that in most cases, the kids simply couldn't read well. He spent his time getting fucking blasted by parents of kids who stood to lose the extra support/equipment already mentioned.

^tru dat

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The current education system is geared up for one type of learning that singles out the best students for literacy and mathematics, I think I remember reading somewhere that this trend started after WWII?

IMO there are many teaching methods and styles that can't be explored anymore due to over-regulation and supposedly accountable-nature of individual teachers/schools.

Kinesthetic and tactile learners or disruptive pupils aren't really catered for, this includes dyslexic kids who are often extremely "bright" in an conceptual sense, this is one of the reasons why dyslexia was picked up by the media as a big turning point for education ("The DUMB are BRIGHT... read more inside" kind of thing).

Unfortunately the government seems to invest in "learning support" to get kids who are "different" to try and conform to the existing learning methods rather than investing in alternative teaching methods, leading to fragmented classes, a need for smaller class sizes and an overhaul of ofsted, etc, as we know it.

Dyslexia's not fiction, but attacking it once it balloons into a catch-all term for "difficult/dumb kids" might be a good way of pushing public support in any directions you please? I don't have a problem with dyslexic folks getting hand-outs when you consider that the country's education system has been stacked up against them form the get-go... a long-term investment into alternative teaching might be a better approach though?

I remember going home from primary school with an old tobaco tin full of words printed on slips of card, with which I had been instructed to form sentances- this because I had very poor reading and writing skills, indeed poor enough to put me in the bottom 10% of a fairly rubbish school.

One move-of-school later and I was tested and declared to have the reading age of someone 12 years my senior.

It was all because I flat out hated the first school, and would not do what they wanted.
This is no comment on Dyslexia, just my own personal experience of a reading/writing issue.

this labour government has pushed the inclusiveness agenda way too much.

i have many friends with disabled (is that still an ok word?) children whose specialist school was closed down so that they could be integrated with their 'peers' at normal school. none have benefitted from this practise and in fact the pupils lives, enjoyment and education have all suffered.

You've accidentally posted this on LFGSS when you should have posted it here www.dailymail.co.uk/wereallgoingtohellinahandcart.html

I posted this in another thread.

I understand that a lot of people regard themselves as 'a bit dyslexic' just because they cant spell or what not. Parents are also quite pushy have there children diagnosed for dyslexia if they are not performing at school. Mainly for an excuse for them just not being that bright.

My reading is very good, my righting is quite good (in an english sence) but my spelling is terrible. I have been tested many times in my life (from the age of about 5) and was last tested last year. All with pretty much the same results. I attended a Dyslexic school for 4 years in my youth wich helped me no end. I quite simply wouldn't be doing what I do today without it.

I find my spelling isnt that much of a problem as most of it is picked up with spell checkers but I do find it very hard to organise my time. My atention span is also terrible, probably why I am on hear a lot of the time.

You've accidentally posted this on LFGSS when you should have posted it here www.dailymail.co.uk/wereallgoingtohellinahandcart.html

i actually take offence at your comment. i consider myself to be a liberal person, however liberalism does not mean shying away from important issues and believing that all people will prosper in the same environment.

i believe that people with specific needs should be provided with the specific attention, education and support that will best help them. the closing of many 'special' schools has had a detrimental effect on thousands of children and their families.

take your reactionary guardian reading views elsewhere.

oh and i never buy the daily mail to read, just for the princess diana candles and memorablia.

Sometimes it comes with free DVD's also.

'special' schools?

'special' schools?

yeah you know the ones with all the window lickers

I remember going home from primary school with an old tobaco tin full of words printed on slips of card, with which I had been instructed to form sentances- this because I had very poor reading and writing skills, indeed poor enough to put me in the bottom 10% of a fairly rubbish school.

Hang on.. I had this type of thing in school as well and I was one of the brighter kids (almost dux in English at secondary school leaving, beaten by teacher's daughter hmppf!). My Dad is a teacher too so he'd tutor me at home (mostly maths). I remember my Mum teaching my brother to pronounce 's' correctly in various words. Perhaps if people had more time to deal with the education of their kids rather than letting schools take 100% of the responsibility there would be fewer cases of these learning disorders?

time for another joke

so these two dyslexics walk into a bra..

Dyslexics of the world untie!

I'm sure there are dyslexics who aren't. Poor teachers can blame the pupil's health. It's a self-perpetuating industry these days. But it is definitely real, and it can ruin your life if you can't mitigate its effects. Cunts like that MP should shut the fuck up and be grateful they aren't affected by it.

I am dyspraxic (lots of things, and the underlying condition for dyslexia) and dysgraphic (writing) and dyscalcic (numbers). Never had a problem reading though, was far ahead of my classmates in that regard. This was never diagnosed at school, or university. Even though it should have been blindingly obvious from all the "bright, hardworking, alert, attentive, but his written work is a disgrace" reports I got from people trained and paid to spot this stuff. I am bitter about my education because the system really is stacked against anyone who cannot produce decent written work in a time limit. At university I did a politics degree (which is essentially a degree in arguing - now I write controversial things on internet forums and display my medically inevitable lack of tact at the same time) and had (my own) mac powerbook to write essays on, so I got a decent degree.

I only really figured I had a problem when I did the civil service fast stream exam, which ought to have been a breeze and couldn't answer a single question. I mean really, not a single one. That career fucked I went into computers and had a hell of a time trying not to get fired because I could not do meetings, timesheets, estimate timescales, or any of the admin preriphery of the job. I was frankly perplexed at my total and utter inability to comprehend that stuff when everyone else I worked with found it a breeze. The penny dropped in an odd way. I was watching some program about self made millionaires and some mention there was made of the high incidence of dyslexia amongst entrepreneurs, and someone described what effect it had on the people concerned. I nearly fell of my chair, as they were basically describing me.

I persuaded the HR dept to get me tested for dyslexia. I was diagnosed with the above variants, and that really turned my life around. With a diagnosis came the idea that I could do something about it. I started learning the drums and piano to get my left/right brain communication working better, I got the all important letter which told my employers to get off my back about the admin and let me do my job. I got really damn good at my job, and then a couple of years later got my current one, which I absolutely love, and do really well.

yeah you know the ones with all the window lickers

'Special' schools is quite a deroggatry term.

only because of the way it was turned into some kind of piss-take term.

that's kids for you.

'Special' schools is quite a deroggatry term.

http://www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/ete/agencies/specialschool/

time for another joke
so these two dyslexics walk into a bra..

Not heard that, I LOL'd. Or is it OLO'd?