Which Groupset?

That may happen.

Heard it here first...

So sumo, did you buy a complete bike with 105 or did you buy the group?

It came on the bike. I wouldn't have chosen Shimano otherwise. Although I hadn't used one of the modern groupsets for any more than 5 minutes that at least I have the knowledge now.

Whilst he's open to suggestion let's try a few more

andyp, aren't titanium bikes rubbish, and Italian bikes. Especially Italian titanium bikes.

Lol. Doesn't Andy race on Taiwanese plastic with a fishing tackle group now anyway?

Taiwanese aluminium I'll have you know.

It's too big for you.

How can you possibly ride alu for cross? It's much too harsh. Have you learned nothing here?

When you're riding around or above FTP for 50 minutes, bouncing around like a monkey on a jackhammer, you don't tend to notice how comfortable your bike is.

that was a joke.

Do I have to winkyman everything here ffs

I know. But I liked the monkey on a jackhammer phrase so ran with it.

Fair play

Maybe some larger tyres at lower pressure Andy? I'm sure you've never thought of that so my suggesting it will be a revelation.

inb4scoble

have you considered wide rims?

Something like ZTR ironcross would be perfect .. wide and made to run lower pressure

Thanks everyone. Next season I shall race cross on a Shimano equipped fat bike, they'll be no stopping me!

you can borrow mine, given you have the physique of a twiglet you'd be able to have sub 10psi tyres.

It's not that I can't reach, I just have to move my fingers further down the lever to brake quickly than I do on my Sram levers. The fact they are fat and wide and completely smooth just makes it a bit more awkward.

Cheers. I was wondering if it was just me who felt that way. Sumo speaks the truth.
Is there a way to upgrade by buying shifters/levers from a posher groupset and keep the rest of the 105 stuff?

Yes. Just buy some Ultegra or Dura Ace ones.

Is that going to help? Are they not all the same shape, with the same pivot point?

I haz ultegra 6800 for sale if you want? pm me, cables make big difference too

105 5800 + Shimano Carbon Pedals for £325 ar Merlin. Much tempted.

Do it. Ignore these posh tarts, with odd shaped hands. 105 is just fine.