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  • I have to admit that I've found I run a lot better on an empty stomach. More often than not it's beneficial. However, sometimes it totally fucks things up and you feel awful. Like anything I guess it's an approach that you need to experiment with before getting the best results.

  • I did this with my training over the summer, long runs (up to 30 miles) after eating a moderate sized meusli breakfast. Figured I'd train myself to run on the fuel I had which did seem to work but I have no idea if there's any scientific evidence to back it up as a training methodology.

    I didn't hit the wall during Dare 12 when I did eat, so it either worked out I didn't go hard enough!

  • Got say it’s taken a little bit of practice just to drink while running, never had a problem cycling but have to take tiny tiny sips to prevent a stitch.

    In other news I’ve done maybe three interval sessions (in three weeks) and already I can feel my heart rate is so much quicker to drop back out of an unsustainable zone. Wish I’d found them sooner.

  • Good luck!

    I've started beginning to angle my training towards that final weekend in April.

  • Yes I am excellent at pacing a run, why do you ask?


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  • That HR spike!

  • I suspect that that is bollocks- chilly here in Melbourne and the strap may have been struggling early on:


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  • Or, I am about to die.

  • What is elevation in Melbourne? I struggle to pace a run in our ends.

  • Dunno, not very high though I don’t think,
    I just went for a run along the river bank so very minimal changes in that sense

  • Regarding fuelling, I'm also in the better-on-empty camp as a rule e.g. I did a hilly, steady 30k on Sunday morning (8 climbs/descents, 470m elevation gain, 4:44/km) - pre-run fuel was half a cup of oats soaked in water overnight with a teaspoon of yoghurt, a chopped dried apricot, and some cinnamon; and a small glass of beetroot juice and cup of white tea.

    Sorry, starting to sound like a Marky Mark boast post.

    Anyway, in-run fuelling was 50ml of water and four jelly babies. Two at halfway, two at 23k before banging out the end of the run at 'marathon pace'.

    Felt fine, but fucking ravenous on getting home…but that's the idea, I suppose. Embrace the glycogen window.

    In other news, I told myself I'd consider joing a club if I ever 'won' my home parkrun. So I've just signed up with a local bunch. If the spikes I've ordered fit, I'm aiming to have my baptism of mud and try XC next weekend – both days. In for a penny…

    I've also bulk transferred my two years' run stats from Garmin to my dormant Strava a/c (thanks, javascript), and joined the lfgss running club. This in no way changes my cyclothymic and socially challenged approach to co-mingling with other humans, I imagine. But I try.

    Hello.

  • ^ Hello.

  • Re: Food I've found it helpful to train both empty & full at times, as confidence digesting on the move in a 24 is useful. Empty runs tend to be first thing, just sip of water then go.

  • Might be the body shock into getting going then settling? My HRM error spikes tend to be much more abrupt iirc.

  • Yeah, that is true- it’s usually a 250 bpm peak in an otherwise unremarkable line for me also. However, it certainly didn’t feel like my HR was that high.

  • ^ it's a strange one as I sometimes get similar when running from cold, effort never feels above conversation pace, hr settles down in a mile or so.

  • Cracked the early entry riddle for EfM last night, so I defo have my spot for next Nov. General sale at midday but it'll be a scramble for fewer places.

    Same applies for the 48hr Escape from GB for end May, not sure I'm ready for that tho so not entered.

  • Ive stupidly volunteered for this half marathon next year and as such im running a bit more. I use strava to track my running and cycling but my phone is less than great battery wise. So I'm debating a smartwatch/GPS watch for cycling and running. I've browsed a few contenders and I'm looking at the Garmin vivoactive 3 or a Samsung gear s3. Some reviews have mentioned iffy GPS coverage from the gear s3 so i was wondering if anyone here has used one? Or if anyone has a better suggestion?
    My required features are the GPS is integrated (so i dont need to lug my phone running) and preferably that it can play music through my BT headphones. Can anyone offer first hand experience?

  • Is anyone here a UK 11 ?

    Got a pair of Saucony Peregrine 8s going. Only done 23 miles in them according to Garmin.
    Not working out for my flat/wide feet.

    Would take £30 posted if anyone is interested.


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  • Got a pair of Saucony Peregrine 8s going

    @umop3pisdn your size?

  • Too big, cheer though

  • PMed about the shoes

  • Is that your sub 18 Parkrun on the Strava group? Chapeau!

  • Yeah. Bit slippy and congested with loads of little people. Trod carefully as I didn’t want to ruin their introduction to running a 5k. My wife was timekeeping and reported that one poor lad double projectile vomited as soon as he staggered into the funnel. That’s the spirit.

    A better run than mine was my son (Y7) winning a battle with the other JM11-14. He got a 20:40 pb for the course and pushed his mate to a pb 12s behind him. Then he went to table tennis club and I made the mad decision to don my new spikes and try my first xc in Trent Park. Haven’t checked standings, but I know I was 50th overall and stayed upright despite turning both ankles. But I like symmetry, so whatever. More stats to follow…

  • Well done for both runs! I was just about in the top 100 at Trent park.

    I think my new favourite thing is comfortable racing. It seems so civilised!

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