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I wanted to enter a couple of years ago with an army friend of mine but he couldn't get leave so we pulled out. Would love to give it a crack at some point though.

never do the omm, simply because its always the weekend the clocks go back, its always foul as fuck weather, and theres loads of other races that are just as good.
omm has just got the notoriety because of the lakes episode where they pulled people off the hill. but if you talk to anyone who was there it wasnt any worse than any other mm or orienteering weather, it was a farmer that lost his bottle about it. RAB is equally good N.Wales this year- http://www.darkandwhite.co.uk/mountain-marathons.asp so anyway I race O and these 2 dayers sometimes, love it, specifically, love moving fast over rough country, dunno why it just gives me a massive buzz

Spare entry for race the train 10k (morning) race, this sat. Free. You'd need to get to Tywyn and promise not to win... drop me a line if interested.

any ideas on nutrition for long distance cycling-or basically same as running?

Just saw this link from a few pages back in the TT thread (posted by Hippy). Not sure if it's any use to you?

http://www.ultracycling.com/nutrition/calories.html

Personally I don't think about it that deeply but just go with whatever seems to work about right.

specifically, love moving fast over rough country, dunno why it just gives me a massive buzz

This is awesome - I love it. My best running experience ever was along forest trails in Malaysia... It was just the most amazing thrill to be moving through primary rainforest at pace! In the UK, whenever I have the opportunity I head away from the roads onto local footpaths. I've never done a navigational race, but I really enjoyed the Endurancelife Coastal Trail Series last year. I'm feeling increasingly committed to the TP100 so may do a few of the CTS ultras as training.

btw... CTS are expensive even if they are fun.

Originally Posted by Dammit
*Right- the area of my leg directly behind the knee joint, above the obvious muscleture of the calf- what is hurting there?

It happened after I over did it on the bike a while ago, and it was nagging me all day yesterday after a very relaxed (52min) ten K on Tuesday.*

Could be shortened hamstrings? I have run several marathon, but didn't do one for about 2 years (or anywhere near the same amount of training) and in that time started cycling. When I trained for a marathon at the start of this year, I had a few problems and one of them sounds like what you have. I think proper stretching is the key, especially if you cycle too because the leg movement is different from that of your natural running style and coming off the bike the hams will have contracted and be tighter. I've also heard joga is good for runners' suppleness and flexibility, but never tried myself. I'd go with some extended hamstring and calf stretches. There's a stretching 'bible' by Bob Anderson, which is a great book.

'Yoga' even

+1 to 'Stretching' by Bob Anderson

not that I stretch enough tho....

new job anyone?

http://news.uk.msn.com/environment/runners-to-beat-capital-traffic

^

"About 75% of the proceeds from the scheme will be donated to the British Red Cross."

hello marketers!

So for those of you who were advising me on the TP100 race, I think I''m more or less committed to the idea.

This is a rough outline of the training plan I hope to keep to, I don't know if it is too much or too little but still the most I'll have run when it comes to race day will be 48km so I'm feeling it might not be enough.

big picture swapped to a link

Now it's lodged in my mind I'm starting to think about targets. I know I shouldn't get too het up about times, and that finishing alone will be a struggle but times are also what motivate me. So, do any of you have any idea how Marathon/Ironman times might equate to this sort of thing? My mara pb is 3:13, but this year I only slowed down to 3:30 for the run at IMAT so I seem to prosper the longer the distance.

My opening gambit would be to aim for 16hours but when broken down to running 4x4:00 marathons back to back, suddenly it looks waay too fast. Maybe 17hours is more achievable or am I completely out of the ball park here and should I be thinking nearer 20-22-24hrs?

errr... just been looking at the times for the North Downs 100... 16, 17 hours definitely out of the question methinks. 24 suddenly seems more realistic.

better discovered now than on start line!

A few odds & ends about ultras I've picked up from people in my running club who do them regularly:

• long runs rarely (never?) seem to go over 30miles, but they do two on back-to-back days (e.g. 20 on Sat, 20 on Sun)
  
• you will get injured
  
  

The staff at Run and Become may be able to give you some good advice as they're mostly in the (semi-cult) Sri Chinmoy running club; that lot love ultras.

errr... just been looking at the times for the North Downs 100... 16, 17 hours definitely out of the question methinks. 24 suddenly seems more realistic.

NDW100 is very hilly, TP100 flat, so there's no comparison. fwiw, my mara time is pretty much the same as yours, and I'm thinking of doing the TP with a target time of probably 18.30.

I just realised this morning that I've run more miles than I cycled last week and am on track for the same again. First time I've been able to say that for a few years :)

I just ran for 45 minutes and my Garmin fucked up somehow and lost all the data.
Slightly annoyed.

Slightly annoyed? You should feel liberated, free at last from the shackles of technology.

My Garmin always takes eons to locate satellites - so I spend the first 2 mins of every run looking like a n0b walking round in little circles in the (probably mistaken) belief this will help. And this is technology - but having paid over 200 notes for it, pride/pig-headedness won't let me run without it...

Snap, I usually let my 305 lock-on whilst stretching, if I can be bothered.

Had totally body melt down over the weekend. Brought a slight virus home from hols. Ran about 7km of a 14km route, started sneezing, and then it all went a bit pete tong. 10 sneezes, a dozen or so belches, and half a dozen farts followed by a massive decrease in lung capacity, and a headache.

Crazy stuff. Still not 100%.

I'll usually turn on Endomondo (I don't have a poncey runners thing) when I leave my flat and am walking towards the park/canal. I'll start it once it's located sattelites and see if it takes. If it does, I stop, reset, and it usually works fine when I finally do start it.

Although a couple of weeks ago I was doing laps of Mabley Green and the west side of the park would just cut out.

Hell on the Humber this weekend - anyone?

^ Race the Train 10k version for me. Toe still not right 7 weeks since damage, sore spot on underside, think it'll hold up but may need X-ray once summer events out the way.

i just ran my first 10k. it was easy really, my top tips for those of you looking to make the the jump from 5 to 10k:

go in the rain (cooling innit?)
have no set agenda or target
comedy in yr headphones (no pesky rhythm to lose and giggling is a great distraction)
but most importantly, lose track of time and get lost. then after 5k or so stop to figure out where you are and head in the general direction of home.
job done!
i'm well chuffed!

Nciely done Dooks.

I find that when runnign round the park I have a tendancy to put the hammer down and then bail at five K, often when intending to pace myself and run 10.

A way to avoid that is, as you say, to run until you are 5K away from home, then turn round- or do a loop.

This was me failing to get a grip on how long a loop would be:

http://connect.garmin.com/dashboard?cid=13212446

I ended up finishing by a bus stop, instead of the end of my road, so needs a little work.