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  • That quantity of cows is my idea of hell. I have been known to cross fences to avoid cows on teh South Downs, such a city boy.

    I found new ways to cock up parkrun. Last week I couldn't find my barcode, after spending 15 minutes looking for it decided to go without it and promptly ran a pb, a pb that will never be recognised :(. Then today I managed to take a wrong turn and turned a hilly three lap course into a hillier four lap course. One day I'll get it right.

    Hope everyone else is having a better running weekend than me.

  • That quantity of cows is my idea of hell. I have been known to cross fences to avoid cows on teh South Downs, such a city boy.

    Country boy through and through here (grew up on a small sheep farm), but I'm always cautious around cows. I almost always run with dogs and I've definitely had a couple of hairy moments. Of course, 99% of the time everything is fine, and it's never stopped stopped me following a route, but I've definitely had to climb over a fence more than once. Just look out for young bullocks, I've never had even a hint of a problem with heifers even with dogs.

  • cows

    Interestingly I ended up walking alongside two cars whose drivers didn't want to upset the cows so followed slowly, this reinforced my caution.

    That said I think these were pretty chilled compared to the intensive farm breeds elsewhere.

  • turned a hilly three lap course into a hillier four lap course

    Better value return for your entry fee!

  • Went out for a longer run, only made it to 25k. Worried about Stockholm now.

  • So impressive. I hope she makes it and takes the record.

  • Wimbledon Common HM. 2:06:28. Very happy with that as it's a PB by 3 or 4 minutes (all other HMs have been unofficial extended commutes or long training runs).

    Obvious point but marathon training makes HMs seem a lot easier. Pushed through the first 10k in 1:00:02 and decided to keep that pace up; didn't fade at all near the end. Almost even enjoyed it, legs feel fine too (should have pushed harder!)

  • Thanks for that. Too late for new shoes for today's Royal Berkshire 10k -despite that I managed a PB by a minute and a half, really pleased.

  • Did a relay race in Yorkshire's famous Yorkshire today. Lovely weather all weekend and had a great run on my leg. Slowly approaching good form.

  • She's nearly there!

  • Bit more detail on my run today, mostly as a request for opinions.

    I'd run to, and then ran, a 5k yesterday, before that I'd taken a couple of days off. The 5k was at a social/conversational pace, I averaged 138 bpm.

    That brings us to this morning - set off, slow road section warming up and then onto the South Downs way - and the inner face of both lower legs are hurting like fuck.

    I run through it, eventually around the 7k mark it fades, and then simply goes away.

    10-15km is probably the best part of the run, feeling pretty strong, then after I've made the turn at around the 16k mark legs just start to lose that strength. Go on for another 10k, reach a cross roads and can't make myself go back to a run after crossing the road. Walk up the hill, round the corner, run a bit more, walk a little, turn the Garmin off at the 31st Km as I know I'm done running.

    I ran continuously for 2.5 hours, then ran/walked for a further 50 mins (which I find surprising actually, thought it was less than that).

    That's where I'm at now - marathon on the 4th, next couple of weeks to get to the point where I can run it with a smile on my face.

    Should I focus on trying to run 30km as my minimum distance one day, something short and fast the next, rinse and repeat? How do I force the pain out of my legs?

    Here's the run - beautiful countryside, at least: https://www.strava.com/activities/576624595

  • Lots of questions:

    Did you push too hard at miles 9 & 10?

    If you remove the low hr walk section what was you ave hr for the run, 145 ish at a guess? Why didn't you run it at 138ish like yesterday?

    How far did you run to get to the 5km yesterday? Had you doubled up like this previously, what were the 'day after' runs like if so?

    Advice would be to repeat sometime in the future maintaining lower hr throughout so you finish feeling fresher.

    What are your taper plans?

  • Should I focus on trying to run 30km as my minimum distance one day, something short and fast the next, rinse and repeat?

    Not day after day, no, and not this close to the event. You've probably one big run left to do, I'd do that rested & rest after.

    How do I force the pain out of my legs?

    Stretching & Massage, if pain pain then Physio now. Also check shoes aren't completely worn out (replace now if so, gives time to break in new ready for 4th).

  • 45 1/2 hours... Not a bad way to spend the weekend I guess!

  • On a weekend like this, the best way! In horizontal rain >>>>>>> pub.

  • Nicky Spinks just beat the double. Thats. Double. Bob Graham round record by an hour tonight. 48 hours movement that we can only imagine

  • I walked a marathon over two days in.London this weekend. Work thing.
    Am I doing it right?

  • Was in the Lakes this weekend, it was bloody chilly overnight and a cold breeze from the north too, suppose you don't cool down as much on the descents when you run but still...

  • Lots of questions:

    Did you push too hard at miles 9 & 10?

    I don't think so, I didn't speed up, just felt better.

    If you remove the low hr walk section what was you ave hr for the run, 145 ish at a guess? Why didn't you run it at 138ish like yesterday?

    In a word, elevation - 5k was flat, today wasn't:

    How far did you run to get to the 5km yesterday? Had you doubled up like this previously, what were the 'day after' runs like if so?

    Just under 3k, hardly anything therefore. I've always done a longer run after a day off before.

    Advice would be to repeat sometime in the future maintaining lower hr throughout so you finish feeling fresher.

    I could probably achieve that by running a flatter route

    What are your taper plans?

    Flying to Stockholm on the 1st, was going to focus on relaxing 1/2/3 then the marathon on the 4th

  • Looking at the bar chart summary mile 9 is a good 20s quicker than prev miles pace & uphill too with a hr spike, I reckon you're maybe paying for that later in run.

    The route also turns into prevailing wind later, if it was owt like my run same morning (was about 30 miles away from yours).

    Doubt previous day had big impact on it.

    elevation - 5k was flat, today wasn't

    It was hillier & further (& a big step up in distance over prev block of runs by looks of your strava) so it'd make sense to run it at a steadier effort, even if that had made it slower than you'd have liked it'd be quicker overall than walking last 5km, plus a confidence booster from completion too.

    If it helps to run longer on flat (mirrors mara course profile?) then definitely make sure next big run is on that terrain.

    Also consider what you'd fueled/hydrated with etc, was that enough.

    Re: Taper, be sure to allow a week of gentlerish stuff before you travel, there's a point beyond which there's no training benefit just additional fatigue...

    It's complicated tho many factors, others may say different to above - take what bits you think will work for you & keep us all posted.

  • Thanks for the advice- one thing I forgot to mention was that mile nine was the transition to Tarmac, before then it was mainly grass and gravel.

  • I'll also wind the pace back on the next long run, aim to complete the distance above all else

  • Obviously I'm by no means an expert on anything to do with running but I'd say that the hilliness of the South Downs Way was probably your downfall. Stockholm has some undulations but also a lot of flat, whereas you had straight up hills yesterday - I think you'd easily be able to do 30km on the flat.

  • That's what I am hoping, however I'd need to do 42.2km in Stockholm. Marathons are long (sky also blue, water believed to be wet).

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