Should I mend the Stan Butler or flog it as it is?

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  • classic dunlop lightweight clinchers courtesy of skully :)

    I wanna see your set up when its finished ok?

  • mine :)

  • that's even nicer! I don't think I have the space on the bolt at the top of the stem, are they removable?

  • thought you might like some inspiration;

    your bike is going to be the star of the show indefintely!

  • pure class bobobobobob

  • Tobes the stem's a fuckin beaut! Bet it weighs a ton though.

    The wheels look good. I've got normal nuts on my Airlites and I'm wishing I had some fancy wingnuts like you.

    Be aware that you might want to experiment with different blocks [edit I mean brake blocks!] as the rims may not work particularly well with 'normal' ones.

    I just finished my gentleman's path. Rode it to work today. No pics yet as I haven't got the tape sorted yet (no pic til its done. Actually Done done.)... still deciding whether to keep these Belleri touring bars on (sit up and beg!?) or get the old GB Maes on. Kind of liking the ladybars actually.

  • Gentleman's path racers FTW! Looking great, Toby!

  • Tobes the stem's a fuckin beaut! Bet it weighs a ton though.

    Surprisingly it's not that heavy!

  • Ed was asking how I was getting on with the stan the other day so here are some pics from a test ride today, awful pics as taken on my phone.... still a few things that need changing, the seat for starters.... but anyway, here it is! -

    Will post pics when finally finished.... whenever that may be... sheesh

  • very very nice, probably better than my holdsworth

  • pure magic, congratulations. what tyres are those?

  • very nicely done, bob.

  • rims are 27" x 1" steel

  • what headset is that?

  • It looks great.
    Definitely worth repairing rather than flogging it.
    Any chance you can give us a breakdown of what components are on it?

  • That looks awesome- fully repays the decision not to flog it.

    I wonder what Vaz is doing regarding frame repairs now that Witcomb is kaput though?

  • pile of rubbish. Frankly I'm ashamed that you're riding that, you should sell it to me and be done with your crippling shame. Awful Truly awful, where are the Deep Vs and the Aerospokes? and the Risers, for the love of god, these hipsters these days. Jezebel, damnation and curses.

  • I wonder what Vaz is doing regarding frame repairs now that Witcomb is kaput though?

    I thought Vaz's frame repair work was done by his brother, who works for Chas Roberts?

    Back on topic - you've done a grand job there Toby. I look forward to seeing it in the flesh, hopefully soon. It'd be good to see you and catch up.

  • I think you are right Andy- just that it was Witcomb who was mentioned earlier in the thread.

    Yes, I did go back to the start and read the whole thing again when I saw the results.

    Sadly Toby has created a bike of great beauty that is too bloody small for me.

  • Falcon Track frame! Cool! I'd love that!

  • niiiice.
    You should get one of those saddle-nose brackets that clamps to the top tube.
    All the powerful sprinters used them backInTheDay. wink-wink

    • cloth handlebar tape...? (though the benotto matches beautifully)
  • Lovely work tobes

    Yeah what headset is that? Looks like the cheapy from Old Bicycle Showroom? I really want a decent old one, missed a Brampton that went for dorra a while ago.

    What are the cranks/CR?

    Thought the rims are 1& 1/4 dale? Guess they are pretty skinny.

    How is it getting the back wheel to stay still with wingnuts? I just put some on the front of my path, just not sure if I'd put them on the rear...

  • those cranks weigh a bloody ton(ne) I had a feel of them before re-chroming.
    aren't they really old TAs bobob?

  • Can i start by saying that Dales comment that this could be better than his holdsworth means a heck of a lot to me as I know how much effort went in to that build... thanks Dale :)

    So, the inspiration -

    I've listed everything below so should answer most questions -

    Frame - Allin track/path dated approx 1960 size 57 ctc

    Headset - Unknown, Vaz put it on and told me it was NOS 1960's and 'hard to find', I am after a new one Skully but haven't found one in good enough condition yet :(

    BB - Cottered Bayliss Willey NOS and weighs a bloody ton! :) I went through 5 of these until I found the right size... seems no-one really measures these properly when asked so took 5 attempts and about 6 months :S

    Chainset - Stronglight, roughly 1950's, had been crudely painted so sent it off for re-chroming, came back looking lovely and shiny!

    Chain - Lovely old renolds, have had it soaking in a bowl of oil for 3 months!

    Pedals - Classic NOS Lyotards. Now I been pretty boring with these and after looking through the pedal museum (yep, there's one online!), these came up as the right era, only a tenner so cheap and fine. Brooks straps, the old buckle type and Barilla toe clips (although Italian sounding they are english through and through).

    Wheels - Airlite hubs, Dunlop steel rims, I have to thank Skully for the lovely rims and Dogsballs for building them so beautifully! Thanks chaps :)

    Seat post - NOS Birmalux

    Saddle - Brooks Narrow Champion but soon to be changed.....

    Stem - Titan Adjustable Track Stem. Again this was a top find but was in need of a re-chrome... soooo, off it went and back it came all shiny.

    Bars - 1950's track drops off the lovely Eric Saylis who owns some real beauties over on Classic Lightweights. He has really helped out with the build and is such a lovely chap.

    Bar tape - Yes yes its benotto... I put some cloth on but only had black and it just didn't go. If I find some grey cloth then I may change it... the benotto stuff is ace, although a right pain to fit as you have to melt it to fix it at the ends :S

    Brake lever - Again thanks to Eric Saylis who kindly sent this to me, its perfect!

    Brake Caliper - Ok, I cheated here.... I have a box full of old calipers, mafac, weinmann, campag.... in the end I put a 70s (or could be 80's) campagnolo record on as looked the best of the bunch... if i find something older and it decent condition then i may change it... we'll see.

    All in all it doesn't actually weigh as much as I thought it would but it is a 'track iron' after all.

    So, there you have it..... thanks for all the kind words.... i'll post better pics when its finished.

    Oh, one last thing, prav i've been looking for a saddle bracket for ages but can't find one... any ideas?

  • thought you might like some inspiration;

    your bike is going to be the star of the show indefintely!

    That's lovely...:)

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