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  • There is a road off the Great North Road called 'County Gate' just before you get to the Barnet Odeon, the Hole in the Wall Cafe and the place where I took my driving license. This is where London ends. The town of Barnet is not in London which is strange as The London Borough of Barnet obviously is

  • I loved that Odeon!!!

    I grew up in Whetstone, so that's London by your county lines.

  • that better??
    thanks jaw.. :)

  • There is a road off the Great North Road called 'County Gate' just before you get to the Barnet Odeon, the Hole in the Wall Cafe and the place where I took my driving license. This is where London ends. The town of Barnet is not in London which is strange as The London Borough of Barnet obviously is

    London grows.

    The City of London had very defined boundaries. Anything outside them was not strictly "London". As the conurbation grew, the term "London"c was used to describe it. When London County Council was formed in 1889, the area within its control could have been described as London but, London was still growing. The Greater London Council area, which created in 1965, could also be used to define London. London has, in reality, grown since then.

    Different ways are used of defining a city. Political units are but one. Another is to look to the urban spread and define the city against a boundary of its green belt. A further method is to look to the economic unit. This latter means would cover most of the Home Counties.

    Not to worry Mike, if population growth and movement continues, Stanley Park will be in London before your grandchildren grow old.

  • I loved that Odeon!!!

    I grew up in Whetstone

    So how come you don't support Liverpool?

    ;o)

  • it looks like the guardian was reading this here thread and decided to do a joy of six, on best first touches, I still think Pastore's was a thing of wonder, and that clip that Fest put up of ronaldinho controlling a ball from the sky and beating his team mate, is almost a carbon copy of what he does in the guardian's clip. Shows how what you do in training/warm ups can be introduced into match situations..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/nov/11/joy-of-six-first-touches-bergkamp

    Like a football time machine, taking you back to some glorious times, I forgot how great Bergkamp's goal against Argentina was,

    Watching the magical touches, reminds me of a turn right on the touchline that berbatov produced, I think against west ham, when he was playing for spurs, controls ball, flicks round player in on goal, glorious finish...

    but anyway onto the guardian's 6 best.

  • Fat Frank England captain. Two armbands for Fat Frank. Jolly good.

    On the subject of poppies, I was concerned by FIFA's refusal to allow the British teams to wear poppies on their shirts. Didn't they realise that without the sacrifice of British servicemen, Europe would be a fascist enclave.

    Then again, perhaps that is their issue.

  • it looks like the guardian was reading this here thread and decided to do a joy of six, on best first touches, I still think Pastore's was a thing of wonder, and that clip that Fest put up of ronaldinho controlling a ball from the sky and beating his team mate, is almost a carbon copy of what he does in the guardian's clip. Shows how what you do in training/warm ups can be introduced into match situations..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/nov/11/joy-of-six-first-touches-bergkamp

    Like a football time machine, taking you back to some glorious times, I forgot how great Bergkamp's goal against Argentina was,

    Watching the magical touches, reminds me of a turn right on the touchline that berbatov produced, I think against west ham, when he was playing for spurs, controls ball, flicks round player in on goal, glorious finish...

    but anyway onto the guardian's 6 best.

    They could have just included Dennis Bergkamp's 6 best first touches. The one from the 1998 World Cup is still breathtaking, especially given the occasion, how late it is in the game and the length of the pass. That said, the first touch in this goal still astounds;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n275iW54o68

    I remember reading a match report in the Guardian afterwards, by David Lacey, who said, and I paraphrase, "Bergkamp didn't so much as control the ball, as issue it with a set of instructions".

  • Never tire of watching these Bergkamp goals. Even as a Liverpool fan you have to say he is the greatest player ever to grace the Premier League

  • ^ Cantona.

  • Sorry Andy, but Bergkamp gets it, especially as he was proven at international level.

  • Oh here we go.
    The Tottenham fans will be out in a minute saying rebrov or that German cunt.
    No doubt the Chelsea fans will follow suit with Zola

  • I'd pay (and have done) good money to watch Bergkamp, Zola and Cantona.

  • not a bad 6 that, all good for different reasons, i would have stretched it to seven and included MVBs screamer from the touchline, greatest volley ever and an amazing first touch

    no Fat Frank in the top 6??!? maybe a few more armbands will help his balance

  • I'd pay (and have done) good money to watch Bergkamp, Zola and Cantona.

    • Zidane and Xavi
  • HATE to say it but CR9 is putting in a decent bid for that title.

  • HATE to say it but CR9 is putting in a decent bid for that title.

    Is that something from Star Wars?

  • Sorry Andy, but Bergkamp gets it, especially as he was proven at international level.

    Bergkamp never watched Karate Kid. Cantona wins.

  • Two gastric bands for Fat Frank

    he probably needs a third...

  • Is he still in the England set-up then?

  • they are desperate for players, obviously..

  • God what a flaming joke.
    And they wonder why people don't give a shit about the national team. Can't wait until Harry is boss next year and he recalls beckham

  • Harry is so old that come next year he'll be pushed to recall Jamie let alone remember Beckham.

  • andyp, that flick for the goal against newcastle is amazing, and he knew what he was doing, and where he wanted to get to, but what gets me is teh commentator's lack of awareness of what is going on, how he's so far behind the intentions. As if not knowing how skillful Bergkamp can be, he can't see the possibilities.
    Or it could just be that it's commentary from a highlights package..

    Those touches are what make football beautiful, just the awareness and the knowledge that if you do this, touch/control/flick/whatever you've envisaged in your head, could/would lead to this opportunity. I just love the improvision of it all. How what you can do is dictated by what is happening around you, and so every situation is different, every flourish is different and unique, and unrecreatable (is that even a real word), and makes it even more amazing that they actually occur...

  • what was great about all those 6 touches was the disguise as much as the touch, they weren't impossible but executed perfectly.
    The disguise comes from being in a different place to most other players, understanding the balance and momentum of your marker, the flight of the ball, your position in relation.. in everyone of those the players feet did all the work before the ball was touched... can't teach that shit

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