Football

finally some who invented football beef. as a scot I'm here for it

Lovely city with a disproportionate amount of fascists. Lived in and around there for a total of 18 months.

This is also worth a read - https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/anti-fascist-anti-racist-and-anti-hellas-meet-virtus-veronas-proud-third-club

Invented football? All they did was to write down some rules, typical fucking Brits.

Woah woah woah.
They wrote some rules which pointed out : those who pick the ball up with their hands are fucking wrong 'uns and should never be trusted.

bit misanthropic lads. football is nothing without fans

For the sake of balance, fans bring the good times too.

One of my best football memories is Arsenal beating Dortmund away from home and then ending up on the lash with the various Dortmund supporters clubs until sunrise the next day. Proper shirt swapping, song teaching, heavy drinking fun. We had such a good time that 30ish of us go to Dortmund games every year....we've become good friends.

There were two sets of Arsenal fans that day. The set who headed to an "English pub" for two days straight, trashed the place while throwing lancaster bomber gliders at the police in a city where 7,000 people died and 70% of all buildings were destroyed by the RAF and the group that were mortified by this behaviour and accepted the amazingly friendly hospitality on offer from proper football fans.

Tbh, i've experienced that at a few German clubs, its not just Dortmund.

Special mention to the football fan, who travels to all Arsenal away games specifically to start fights despite being an Oxford United fan. Known as the "fixer" of the Arsenal firm. What a monumental cunt. Barely a flicker of sentience in his brain. The first time I met him it was less than one minute before he said "what about them fuckin' p*kis eh?".

Massive sense of entitlement, ridiculously unrealistic expectations, etc, etc... From the fans, the executive, the media... And then the poor players, with the weight of the country's hopes on their shoulders, are hung out to dry and left to die on the poxy George cross...

What a load of old bollocks nationalism is, it gets in the way of a really good game, I reckon...

And this one

Well no, there what I remember is the white t-shirt throwing himself down and the foot of the blue went there accidentally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt6dYZWNjBA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HhIkdw3f0Q

We are forgetting this happened.

And this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3CymTdKbFc

And finally
What was Jorghino doing here?
(Shit vid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sFav4N7ZJQ

VAR should have intervened here. They bottled it because of the occasion.

Wow

I'm not sure if it's the same for other countries, but why can't we lose and just be a bit downbeat for a day or two, that'd be too easy... instead England drags itself through the mud with all this racism and violence. It's embarassing, we're the dickheads of the world.

Dangerous play is dangerous play, even if the Italian boot did seem to roll off the ball in a way that was unlikely to be deliberate.

Why? His foot slipped off the top of the ball

Yeah exactly, that's always misunderstood, but Jorginho knew what he was doing.

Lucky not to get a red.

Now a days going in studs up there is a good chance of a red. Esp after the sweden red.

studs showing and over the ball - looked like a red to me. shirt pull on saka was def a yellow, never a red

I think he meant it but even if it was an accident, dangerous play doesn't have to be on purpose. He went in at speed, with a lack of control and ended up stamping on a player.

That fact that he immediately fell on the floor 'injured' tells you everything you need to know. He thought he was going off. And he should have done.

I wish they’d change this. Adds nothing to the game these minor but cynical fouls.

I think he meant it but even if it was an accident dangerous play doesn't have to be on purpose. He went in at speed, with a lack of control and ended up stamping on a player.

Exactly that. All of the teams were warned before the tournament that they were going to pick up on this kind of thing. Dangerous play is still dangerous play even if accidental.

VAR didn't intervene because the ref gave a yellow. As I understand it VAR could only intervene if the ref hadn't given a card or just given a free kick. The ref giving it a yellow means he was aware of the potential severity of it and decided it wasn't a red.

Put it another way, if the ref hadn't given a yellow then VAR could have intervened and it would probably have been a red. But that doesn't mean either the use of VAR or the ref was wrong.