Is going clipless shagging my knees?

before OP does anything drastic, it would be wise to address saddle height...

what a good idea Ved, why oh why, didn't i think of that

Wouldn't the same effect be achieved by shortening the leg?

Inverse LEG SHIM!!

undo the shoes laces/velcro straps so the foot can move around in the shoe.......might help

:)

sorting the fit and finding the right pedal is worth experimenting with... i think that its worth trying the entry level pedal from a few manufacturers for a while and finding what suits your style... i went from shimano spdsl over to look keos and have used time and speedplay to see how they felt. Ended up back at shimano.. (mainly because they are cheap and the float is very good)

i find i get knee pain every time i get back from a ride with my MKS pedals with cages and straps... i think its because my foot moves mositions alot more during riding than with my clipless...

Don't forget to wear latex gloves when handling a tape measure.

Cheers chaps... that's a lot of friendly replies in a very short time! You may have something with saddle height - I actually raised it a tad after fitting the new pedals as the new position felt a little cramped. I guess I'll try lowering it again to see if that helps things. I'm kind of hoping it's just a case of letting things readjust as I'm really enjoying the aliums. Otherwise I guess there's always Ibuprofen injections directly into the patella...

Don't forget to wear latex gloves when handling a tape measure.

indeed, it could be a bit mucky from measuring inside legs

you could lengthen /shorten limbs? 2 year healing period FTW...

this is all well and good, but has anyone thought that it might be the difference between the inside and outside leg measurement? i bought a pair of rapha knee braces. sorted it right out.

It may be down to finding a system that allows your foot to move around more freely and find it's own natural angle/position. I find Eggbeaters good for that, whereas other pedals gave me a feeling my foot was trapped into position too much.
Many people are Egg beater haters though claiming they have longevity problems but my 5 years old ones must be the exception.

Many people are Egg beater haters though claiming they have longevity problems but my 5 years old ones must be the exception.

Disassemble, rebuild and regrease, FT, er, W.

Disassemble, rebuild and regrease, twice a week FT, er, W.

more like it.

more like it.

It beats doing the crossword.

Cheers chaps... that's a lot of friendly replies in a very short time! You may have something with saddle height - I actually raised it a tad after fitting the new pedals as the new position felt a little cramped. I guess I'll try lowering it again to see if that helps things. I'm kind of hoping it's just a case of letting things readjust as I'm really enjoying the aliums. Otherwise I guess there's always Ibuprofen injections directly into the patella...

Aliums are fucking awesome

I have been riding clip less for 20 years. I used the first incarnation of Look pedals which had no float.My knees are fucked, click like crazy until they warm up. They are stiff from idle to movement. It may be arthritis but I think this has alot to do with clip less pedals, it would be naive of me to think this wasn't the case. I use pedals/cleats with float now, have done for a while but the damage was done long ago.

Im pretty sure alot of people the wrong side of 30 have similar problems. I know alot of cyclists that have dodgy knees.

I know a lot of cyclists that have broken collarbones.
It's a bit of a stretch blaming knee pain on your pedal system when cyclist's knees get caned through normal use and any number of factors might be at work here.

I know a lot of non-cyclists with dodgy knees, and backs

I too have dodgy knees. That's why I avoid hard flooring.

I don't..

YouTube - Hardfloor - Acperience 1

I too have dodgy knees. That's why I avoid hard flooring.

I know a lot of cyclists that have broken collarbones.
It's a bit of a stretch blaming knee pain on your pedal system when cyclist's knees get caned through normal use and any number of factors might be at work here.

Not that much of a stretch. A young person, still growing uses a pedal locking system with no lateral float to anchor their feet/knees in a static position whilst exerting all sorts of forces on these areas. Over a period of years,damage may occur. I dont know any cyclists with broken collarbones.

You're not a real cyclist until you've broken both, twice.

"whilst exerting all sorts of forces on these areas" is the bit I'm talking about. How do you know float would have helped? Maybe your setup was wrong for 10 years? I'm just saying there's other factors and it seems a bit um.. what's the word? blah blah jumping to conclusions without taking other factors into account. eg. How do you know all the people using float pedal systems won't have bad knees in the next 20 years?