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  • A bit of Googling shows they went G55 (supercharged 5.4) to E63 (twin turbo 5.5), so the poor old atmospheric 6.2 was not considered hirsute enough.

  • They also made a G65- which had a twin turbo 6.5 litre V12. I suspect they didn’t sell many.

  • early 1970s French mobile.

    Citroen GS or Renault 12?

  • I once met the son of Sir Clive Sinclair. He was driving a beaten up, unwashed, debadged S65 with a child seat in the back.

    I nodded knowingly at his nonchalant disregard of depreciation and running costs.

  • I've already got one 5 litre car. Just think how manly owning two would make me. I'd be as manly as Burt Reynolds swimming in a lake of pure Brut 33.

    Well, I feel positively emasculated now. Both my cars total a merely adequate 3.6 litres. Although there is roughly 60psi of boost between them.

  • S65 cost twice what an S63 did, and got to 60mph 0.1 seconds faster. 13mph on the top end mind, and IIRC an extra 200 feet of torque

  • Renault. Bit rarer than the 12 though

  • Blimey. I didn’t know that. I thought it was maybe a £120k car but it looks like it was more like £200k.

    The Sinclairs were OG tech bros.

  • Yeah, serious money new- interesting spread of other cars you could have bought for the money at the time.

  • To quote something I read on PH..
    One doesn't buy Range Rovers, one leases

    Edit to add.. three lads with knifes robbed my neighbour's Velar after failing to grab his RRS SVR keys. Full home invasion that failed to account for the householder being Albanian.

  • I wonder if at 200kmh on the autobahn the V12 suddenly makes sense.

  • Maybe, I imagine you need all the help you can with the aerodynamic attributes of the G wagon

  • Ooh, intriguing. Will wait to see... Hope it's a 4 Plein open air or something kooky like that.

  • Outback getting it done.

    No need for a big 4x4


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  • Nice. Where are you? We're currently in darkest Wales in the H6 3.0l Outback and loving it, well until filling it up. Feels very at home bombing along the rain soaked b roads with our heated seats.

  • Port de la Bonaigua, at 2000m summit. Had to go to train station in France. This was taken on way there, way back was a blizzard with good snow and ice. Even saw a flipped snow plow.

    Yeah filling it up hurts, I get around 12L/100km running it at altitude in mountains. But Its never skipped a beat and gets me anywhere

    Yes an outback suitable place Wales.

  • Speaking of Subaru, I recently added the Levorg to the shortlist for next car, alongside Passat TSI, Corolla Touring and new V60. Anyone driven a Levorg?

  • My only experience of Subaru was the very expensive parts prices. Not sure if the more common Impreza is any different, but Legacy part prices were crazy and someone kept on nicking the headlight washer jets off of mine (£80 each). A damaged wing mirror was nearly £600 to replace.

  • The levorg I drove (a 2018 2.0 GTS ) was a wet log. Not fast, dead steering and sloppy CVT transmission. The suspension tune was equally to firm on initial bump then too soft... I didn't love it.

  • I was sceptical about CVT, and really I want manual, so that’s useful to hear. Will bump it down the list.

  • Not sure if this is ace or naff, LWB Holland and Holland Rangie


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  • For anyone asking (no one) I hired an MG SV in Spain and it was fucking shit

  • I wouldn't use either of those terms to describe it, naff isn't nearly the correct word. Hope the driver gets a ticket for bulging over the parking space.

  • Haha I wish

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