Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • Main reason is to maintain currency for a warranty - if out of warranty then the only real reason is that a main dealer service history looks (very slightly) better when you come to sell it (in some people's opinions)

  • New Model S interior is interesting...


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  • Steering wheel won't make it into production I suspect...

  • There are already renders on Tesla's server which have a normal wheel.

    Still no stalks anymore. Buttons on the wheel for indicators, lights, etc.


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  • Just in case anyone ever wondered what Irish forumengers were getting upset over when we complained about the cost of motoring over here/ have to listen to other people complaining about the cost of motoring in their countries...

    Revenue want almost €9,500 VRT/ import charges on a car that's worth €4,000 on a good day.


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  • oh wowwwwwwwwww papa elon rotated the screen to landscape!

  • Can’t you just import to NI, then import to the ROI? Gov.uk site says zero VAT and duty GB to NI, and once in NI it’s (NI Protocol) in the EU, so should be no import or tax NI to ROI?

  • Think the most telling thing is they have Netflix on the screen.

  • That's not Netflix; it's had that for ages.

    It's a game library. Apparently it will have 10tflops of graphics power (basically same as the PS5)

  • 10tflops

    Ah, come on now, you can't just make up words and expect me to be impressed! Next you'll be telling me it connects to "the cloud".

  • Basically it can solve 10 trillion floating point equations per second. Which is a lot.

    It definitely connects you to the cloud.

  • Soul, yesterday, plugging in his Tesla

  • I was using Netflix as a generic name for "entertainment"

  • You'd think that but no. Irish Revenue are still going to charge all of the same charges before you'll receive a registration number.

    They've even written into the rules that it's illegal for an Irish citizen currently resident in the country to drive a vehicle that isn't registered in Ireland. It's an absolute shitshow.

  • Meh, it was a joke about a car that was antiquated and dreadful even when it was new, and hasn't got any better in the intervening decades.

    I guess you owned one once.

  • I mean... we're on a forum for people who love riding fixed gear bicycles. I'm not sure if up to date tech is actually top of the agenda around here all that often...

  • I have never owned one. I do like them though.

    I guess its just on your list of non-upper class stuff that you cant bare the sight of, along with cork tiles and UPVC windows.

  • Wait, what? I thought this was a forum about antiquated mechanical watches and antiquated fossil fuelled cars?

  • Basically it can solve 10 trillion floating point equations per second. Which is a lot.

    I like Tesla as much as the next person, but have you become a zealot?

    The number of ops a computer does is not a good measure of it's capability and never has been. Most of a super computer is the network and storage, not the cores and flops, and even then it will still run some crappy Python 2 code.

  • But Ireland is in the EU, therefore an import from say France should not attract vat and duty- although if the fees are based on emissions and so on then that would be a country specific thing, is that the case here?

  • Sure - but it's the only bit of information we currently have.

    It's a large step up from the GPU in HW3.0 (which is in all current models rolling off production lines) which can handle around 600 GFLOPS.

    More than the gaming aspect, it's exciting as it unlocks more of the FSD capabilities which might also be why they're minimising the steering wheel.

  • They've even written into the rules that it's illegal for an Irish citizen currently resident in the country to drive a vehicle that isn't registered in Ireland.

    Hasn’t that been the case for years though? Iirc it’s the same in the UK for uk residents.

  • VW type 3 squareback :D These were about when I did my apprenticeship at VW, some of them had fuel injection 'Bosch D type' I always remember they had a second set of points in the distributor under the main base plate for the fuel injection signal. a whopping 68 bhp for the 1.6l :) some even had a petrol preheater you could fire up to defrost the car .

  • Just returning this now. I've just been talking about it and it had a catloc fitted after the last time I returned it. We'll see if this one stays put.🤞


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  • It's wildly illegal and the EU routinely fines Ireland for charging VRT but they make so much money fromVRT they just pay the fines and keep charging.

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