Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • Looks broken.

    Is broken.

  • A bit late but hippies mystery Mercedes-Benz is a B class right?

  • Sagged more like.
    (if I were you I'd just ignore me, saw an unmolested one driving on the weekend and it was glorious - although surprised at how slow it was on what sounded like full throttle)

  • What is the rear suspension like? The Maserati quality dropped at the middle biturbo era IMO. Interiors and engines/transmission were brilliant. Parts of the suspension are just folded bits of thin metal and with a little rust and rusted bolts the whole lot becomes easier to replace. If you can find the parts. Mas decided to alter parts per model and that makes parts a bit difficult and pricey.

    Another mistake that I learned...

  • How bad is the welding needed?

  • Seen some right crappy bits of suspension on some surprising cars recently. Legacy (2005/10 age), Toyota saloon car (avensis? 2012) and Honda crv (2011j) all in for top mounts and bush's, but ended up replacing whole wishbone (bush's fine) because of horrific poke your finger through it rust.
    Shouldn't wishbones be cast? Like always? None of those cars I would deam a bargain basement car (like an "mg" whatever that thing is. £6K brand new. These ones were all pressed and tack welded together very poorly imo.
    Imagine if a wishbone just gave way on you, nasty.

  • Some sort of classic volvo meet happening yesterday, failed to take any pics as I was on my bike and they cruised past. You'll have to imagine the sparkling candy green P1800 estate that had me in 'lock on target' mode.

  • I sort of expect it on some cars, the last a certain number of years type, but not a maserati. Overlooked what Di Tomasi tried to do with the brand.

    Still have the Italian convertablised biturbo s (2l) car minus the shell. That maserati has the nicest leather I have put my arse on for a long time. The 228 I got was a fucking wrong 'un but it was payment in lieu, should have walked away. But as the idiot that I am, I walked it to it as I thought the biturbo suspension would swap and could use the left over bits in to a car and run around in a maserati till I sold it. Was wrong, still there and still can't let go.

    If you are ever bored, look how fiat cheapened the suspension on the fulvia, from beautifully welded tube, that were adjustable, on the series 1 and 1.5 to cheap stamped u channel on the series 2.

  • 600bhp/tonne? even i know when i am out of my league...

  • that's more like it. that is a shed load of car for the money

  • That little falcon is a ripper. Good for some classic touring car action.

  • 600bhp/tonne? even i know when i am out of my league...

    Blouse

  • Little....falcons are massive.

  • 1st Gen ones aren't massive, they were considered compact in the US! They're about the size of a Mk3 Cortina.

  • Enjoying the warm weather today. Forgot how much fun this is on narrow B roads.


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  • We're slowly closing in on the engine specification, it's been evolving over time but I think we've got some conclusions on some parts now.

    The M96 engine is slightly odd in that the crank, at the flywheel end, is unsupported - which had consequences.

    Initially the crank was solid, which meant that as it flexed it transferred significant load into the closest main bearings, dramatically increasing the wear on those. Porsche decided to make the next generation of cranks hollow at the end - and machined out the centre. This made the crank more flexible, but the flex was contained within the hollow part of the crank, not transmitted straight into the bearings - but these cranks can crack.

    So we're returning to a solid crank - forged from EN40B steel. We're also fitting an additional bearing that sits right behind the RMS, which requires said seal to stand slightly further out than stock. The only EN40B cranks available are for the 3.6 litre engines (when bore is 96mm) rather than the 3.4 which I currently have.

    I'm in the process of sourcing a 3.6 litre crank carrier - the main bearings are usefully thicker than the 3.4 as well, so this is all good news. We'll use Carillo rods, and new pistons to fit into the 100mm Capricorn liners which will be fitted after the stock liners are machined out. We'll close the deck at this point, also. This will give us a swept capacity of 3.9 litres, so up 0.5 litres from my current engine.

    The heads are being lightly ported, the tappet chests we are completely redesigning and will have machined from billet in order to address some issues that they suffer from as stock, and also allow for higher lift cams to be fitted - these will be specified and ground to match the new capacity and overall design of the engines. I believe we're sticking with stock valves as they flow (impressively) well.

    Porsche motorsport provide the X51 kit for the 3.4 engine, and we're using some of their parts here - specifically the intake manifold, the extra oil scavenge pump fitted to one head and the additional radiator that fits beneath the number plate - with an additional thermostat inline to stop it opening too early.

    Exhaust manifolds are likely to be Cargraphic long-tube, equal length items as they are the correct diameter for our predicted use.

    Not sure on the throttle body at the moment, an 82mm unit of some description but I don't know which one, I'd prefer to stick with cable, but the Syvecs unit can support eGas and that might be easier.

    With the new crank, ARP fasteners, Carillo rods and the revised tappet chest we should be ok to push the rev ceiling on the engine up a little, will be very interesting to see what the engine designer thinks is appropriate there - the 3.7 is over-square, the 3.9 has a longer stroke so is not as suited to a high revving application, but that said the engine is going to be pretty robust with the updates so we shall see.

  • That all sounds really cool.

    I have only the faintest idea what it means.

    It makes me want to go and drive the MG fast, until I blow the engine up again. Was that the intention?

  • Dammit - that's mega ambitious. Fair play to you. Sounds KFC.

    @mashton, me too. I'm hoping to get more than a 800 miles out of this one. A possibly forlorn hope as I did the rebuild and don't even know if it will start yet.

  • Thanks Jung, my personal target is to beat the power to weight (and at 3.9 lites, possibly the outright power figure) of the turbo, but with an NA engine. It'll also remain looking totally stock - apart from the 30mm lower ride height and larger brake discs there will be no visible sign of the increased performance. We might yet trouble the grip of the 285 rear tyres...

  • Exactly, also a lot lighter than you'd expect.

  • B-E-A-UTIFUL

  • By not aiming for peak rpm I'm guessing you'll end up with a far more driveable engine. And it'll still rev enough to satisfy.

  • Get the fucking lid off, then!

    Joking. looking nice...

  • @TRA cheers boss

    @BRM fair comment is fair. I've removed the soft top as the rain rail was brittle and cracked. The plan is to fit a roll bar 'while I'm in there' and when funds allow too.

  • https://youtu.be/hM2CzkHeixI

    Always amusing MX5 action. And a bit lethal.

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