Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • This weekend I drove to Luxembourg to stay with an old uni friend and go snowboarding.

    I read this article on Speedhunters and decided I needed to spend some time driving around on Luxembourg's back roads.

    http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/01/little-caterham-little-switzerland/

    Oh. My. God.

    Luxembourg has been hovering around on my radar for some years, my dad used to live and work out there, and I had a very minor taste of the roads there a few years ago. I didn't manage to do the full route that's shown in the article, but followed the advice to just pick a road between two towns. The roads have perfect tarmac, they have good scenery, they are undulating, flowing, a beautiful mix of high speed corners and tight twisties. The roads are also empty, especially at midday on a Tuesday during a working week, there's stone walls, and rock formations for exhaust noise to bounce off, there's lone locals walking through quiet villages who wave as you roll through in 2nd, making the loudest noise they've heard since their alarm went off that morning. It's just a brilliant place to drive around.

    Tor's Pass in Northern Ireland was more technical, more challenging, and physically draining, but then it is a tarmac stage of the Ulster Rally, it also has a poor road surface, there's random bits of mud and gravel strewn across the road causing you to grab armfuls of oppo when you least expect or desire it. It's also mostly single lane, so when you're really laying down the hammer, you have to fucking pray there's nothing coming the other way. It's also in fucking Northern Ireland, which requires an expensive and ridiculously long ferry crossing.

    North Wales was easier to get to but it's always raining, there's traffic, every chump in a RenaultSport hatch who reads Evo is out there on a weekend dicing with locals just trying to get from home to the shops, and the food is shit.

  • Anyone seen any stonking deals on decent batteries suitable for a mid nineties 5 cylinder petrol Volvo?

  • Last time I bought a battery for my old VW camper I just went to Halfords.... not exactly a "stonking deal" but if you take the old one then you'll be certain you've got the right replacement, there's something like a 3 year guarantee, and they get rid of the old one for you.

  • Heh, I just need to put some electricity into my car in order to get it to Halfords.

  • Eurocarparts? Halfords?
    Only the rich can afford cheap batteries, so buy a Bosch or some other decent one.

  • It's also mostly single lane, so when you're really laying down the hammer, you have to fucking pray there's nothing coming the other way.

    I shall look forward to being knocked off my bike and killed by you in the near future. I hope I don't scratch your car too badly.

  • On days like these?

  • I shall look forward to being knocked off my bike and killed by you in the near future. I hope I don't scratch your car too badly.

    Fair cop, I drove like a cunt there, after 5 mins I stopped because it was getting out of hand. I don't think you need to worry.

  • Road down to (ex)girlfriends country house was high bushed single lane. Young dumb me would blast down at 60-70....until I nearly smashed into a 65' cooper S doing the same, only missed because we were both so tiny, and stopped to apologise etc and then discuss cars. Never went more than 30 again. It's amazing how much I've learnt now from one year of driving to this day.

  • You were lucky. My 1st year learning experience involved putting my dad's brand new company car on its roof. Fortunately for humanity it was a Rover 820

  • Did your dad a favour there!

  • Bit offtopic (no-one 'appreciates' sensible cars) but any recommendations for a small car would be handy. Something reliable, pref two/three door, hatchback, diesel, under £2000, decent in the city, under 80k, that sort of thing. Been looking at Golfs and Focuses but they're surprisingly expensive imo. Any recommendations appreciated.

  • skoda's ... post vw take over

  • Seat Ibiza / Skoda Fabia are built on the VW platform and will be just as reliable but much more affordable.

    I've owned an Ibiza before and the bigger diesels are a lot of fun to drive.

  • Honda Jazz?

    VW Polo
    VW Lupo
    Seat Arosa
    Skoda Fabia

  • Ford Fiesta?

    But a skoda/ seat after VW takeover (as Soul said) is the sensible choice probably.
    The estate cars are the E.Mid. Ambulance service vehicle of choice.

  • get an ibiza, I love mine.

  • Get a Skoda Fabia VRS Mk1. They're amazing, by all accounts.

    My Mk1 Octavia VRS estate is the best car I've ever had.

  • Squeezed through a really busy, windy town road with parking on both sides today and came across a Ford Transit. Fair point, I shouldn't have tried to squeeze through, so I stopped and was probably about to reverse out. Cue Transit pushing ahead and scraping down our stationary car with a big GRAUNCH and rocking it from side to side.

    Bugger, I thought, and watched for him to stop and exchange details. He carried on. So I three-pointed and followed him. Eventually we hit a red light on a dual carriageway and I leapt out telling Mrs Sparky to phone police and jump in driver's seat. I told him he'd hit us, he said no he hadn't, I said police were being called, he said he'd pull in.

    When he did he got pretty irate and his wife had to calm him down - I was being pretty calm and kept saying "I'm sure you didn't notice as you're in a hit van", even though I'm sure he did. Exchanged details, but he had no damage to his already dented and rusty van. Strangely our only damage was a big scuff on the bumper - felt much worse.

    Now Mrs Sparky is worried about what to do. Turns out she hadn't time to call police so my instinct is it leave it. What do you lot think?

  • Fair cop, I drove like a cunt there, after 5 mins I stopped because it was getting out of hand. I don't think you need to worry.

    I'm sure we've all done it at points, and hypocritically complain when we see others doing it. The sooner robots do all our driving, the better.

  • Now Mrs Sparky is worried about what to do. Turns out she hadn't time to call police so my instinct is it leave it. What do you lot think?

    If I had decided the damage wasn't significant enough to claim on the insurance then I'd just leave it.

    If insurance needed to be involved then I'd contact the police and report them leaving the scene of an accident and contact my insurance to tell them what has happened (so far.)

    In this case, if it were me, I'd probably leave it. Although I'm currently trying to get some CCTV footage from Tesco to find out which TWO knobs managed to dent both doors when I was doing my shopping. At least they match...

  • Bit offtopic (no-one 'appreciates' sensible cars) but any recommendations for a small car would be handy. Something reliable, pref two/three door, hatchback, diesel, under £2000, decent in the city, under 80k, that sort of thing. Been looking at Golfs and Focuses but they're surprisingly expensive imo. Any recommendations appreciated.

    Peugeor 306 HDi Dturbo 1999-2001
    I've driven one for the last 9 years -never let me down! I've got a new car now but I'll never sell the Pug.

  • would your no claims bonus be in jeopardy? would they put your premium up next year?

    worth thinking about.

  • It might turn out to be a good thing Mrs Sparky didn't make it official. Insurance companies can bump up your premium if they get wind of it -regardless of whether you claim.

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