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Let me look outside... Yep. Everyone here. Most people on disabilities polishing their cars in sunshine at the moment. Bad backs.

He's like a direct line to Boyz n the Hood. What would we do without him.

You did say that you'd rather join the hoodies than be part of the white middle class- which is intersting as what do you think the hoodies think you are?

Would they have you, or would they see you as part of the problem?

The hoodies would see me as a posh twat who probably has a million quid in the bank*, they would try to steal my bike and my phone...

I'm under no illusions...

• The students at my gf's last school seriously thought she was a millionnaire because she was a teacher... "Miss, you must be ballin' if you're a teacher, innit?"
  

We've done this.
The fuckwits taking out the dodgy loans lost their houses. What did the bankers lose? "too big to fail" is how this recession will be remembered.

Estate agents arrange loans?
I'm talking about the US.
I hate estate agents as much as the next guy, though. So don't worry.

"Hey mister you can afford it, don't worry I know a guy.."

I've missed out on the navel gazing 'what class are you debate', and I've avoided this thread for at least 18 hours, but after a quiet night in Brixton I was pondering as to why the police did f-all on Sunday night.

Part of the London problem was that due to a number of on going court cases over their actions during the student grants cuts, the MET police appear to be being Machiavellian:

The stand and observe orders they carried out are a perfect way of negotiating and over turning the massive budget cuts that the police are facing at the moment. Lots of cash crime / looting, and a temporary loss of the control of London streets.

Once police numbers went up dramatically, the action seems to have calmed down (perhaps temporarily, as it’s not sustainable).

They can now walk in - with the backing of aspiring PM Bojo - and say; cause and effect – we stand off due to numbers and look what happens. We up the police force and calm is restored.

There’ll have been some smug MET police and an awkward Govt at the cobra meeting this morning.

Estate agents arrange loans?

I'm talking about the US.

I hate estate agents as much as the next guy, though. So don't worry.

talk about your own country >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

#footythreadjoke

It's taken me over an hour of trailing 15 minutes behind everyone else to finally get to the end of this thread. I had some thoughts about employment I was going to put forward, mainly about Bertrand Russell's idea of having a 4-hour working day which would abolish all unemployment but now you're arguing about tax and class so never mind...

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He's like a direct line to Boyz n the Hood. What would we do without him.

It's mans. Bare mans here, as I can see. No snitch boys.

The fuckwits taking out the dodgy loans lost their houses. What did the bankers lose? "too big to fail" is how this recession will be remembered.

They're still driving last year's model Bentley. The shame.

Too be honest, no teenagers here for few days now. Strange.

Let me look outside... Yep. Everyone here. Most people on disabilities polishing their cars in sunshine at the moment. Bad backs.

Straight from the pages of the Daily Hate.

There's 2 options here.

1, You have ALOT of hate for the people around you
2, You are trolling

I've missed out on the navel gazing 'what class are you debate', and I've avoided this thread for at least 18 hours, but after a quiet night in Brixton I was pondering as to why the police did f-all on Sunday night.

Part of the London problem was that due to a number of on going court cases over their actions during the student grants cuts, the MET police appear to be being Machiavellian:

The stand and observe orders they carried out are a perfect way of negotiating and over turning the massive budget cuts that the police are facing at the moment. Lots of cash crime / looting, and a temporary loss of the control of London streets.

Once police numbers went up dramatically, the action seems to have calmed down (perhaps temporarily, as it’s not sustainable).

They can now walk in - with the backing of aspiring PM Bojo - and say; cause and effect – we stand off due to numbers and look what happens. We up the police force and calm is restored.

There’ll have been some smug MET police and an awkward Govt at the cobra meeting this morning.

Yup :(

Crime goes down, cops on the street go up.

Next they'll convince everyone that we need more prisons for these 31 year-old teachers to spend a couple of years in. Don't have money? That's okay, we'll run them privately.

Wait, you missed the "need" for newe anti riot "toys".

It's because there are two different truths, mate.
There are also things which could be done and thing which can be actually done.
There are also things like community, family, race and such which are intertwined.

And what makes you think, that I'll be grassing on all my neighbourhood or on my own family?
What makes you think, that I like what I see?
Why don't you fbloody go and check on your neighbour and start from there? Oh, of course you live in a safe bubble completely detached from the real issues of the real people (I just hear this phrase all day today on here).

I live a few doors down from you.

Picks up the phone and grasses on his neighbors

Yup :(

Crime goes down, cops on the street go up.

Next they'll convince everyone that we need more prisons for these 31 year-old teachers to spend a couple of years in. Don't have money? That's okay, we'll run them privately.

regardless of profession or social standing if you break the law and get caught you get punished

I don't see how this is confusing to you

^ You would think that would be the case...

Does prison, and all it stands for ("redemption", "pay back", "missing out of the fun of being in society"), still work? Ever work? Especially in an increasingly secular society? Or for people who do not see themselves as part of the society they're being "excluded" from? When they're already excluded before going into prison.

regardless of profession or social standing if you break the law and get caught you get punished

I don't see how this is confusing to you

It's a comment on the calls for "harsh" punishments for those involved which we've heard all the way from the lowlifes on here to the PM himself, and the fact that the first person we've heard of being charged was a 31 year old school teacher who clearly got caught up in the entire experience (I mean, who's scum).

Of course people need to be punished. Why does everyone always think it's one or the other?

In fact, that you didn't see "a couple of years" in prison as obviously over the top and being used to some sort of effect freaks me out.

Because you can't hold two thoughts in your head, that ask "why did this happen" as well as "these people did wrong"?

Does prison, and all it stands for ("redemption", "pay back", "missing out of the fun of being in society"), still work? Ever work? Especially in an increasingly secular society? Or for people who do not see themselves as part of the society they're being "excluded" from? When they're already excluded before going into prison.

If prison worked as a deterrent then the prison population would go down not up!

List time?

Asking two questions: Why? and what should we do?

1. Damo
   
   

KILL THEM IN THE FACE!

What class are you?

Where's the football thread gone?

1. damo
   

Straight from the pages of the Daily Hate.

There's 2 options here.

1, You have ALOT of hate for the people around you
2, You are trolling

Bit of both.** Just want people to see that there's the other side**.

You lot talk about people like they're kids. Like they need decisions to be made for them, provisions made.
All those people from council estates, they're humans. They are also citizens who also form this nation, if you know what I mean.
Whatever ideas people will come up with on this forum, they can do fuck all without them - the ones which those decisions directly concern - approval.

And yes, I have loads of hate for people who make my life a miserable one. Why not? I'm not Ghandi.

Aso for the rest, this thread is public. Many know me and we can talk in the pub. Anyway, I hear people already talking about taking a revenge during the Carnival, so have it. I don't make it up. I can't help it.

I keep reading PM and wondering what private messages have got to do with it. Maybe it’s all our fault. The forum has made me institutionalised, so now I will break a road.