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Hadn’t thought of ‘heal’, was wondering why the heck someone above was telling poor Otto to harden tf up.

Crikey! Hope you both make full and speedy recoveries!

There was a Bully XL piece on the BBC website today as well. From that, it sounds like it isn't recognised as a breed in the UK, so it slips through the dangerous dogs legislation.

I love this shit. Am I reading the part correctly where it says that they received $109m in donations in one year?! How deep does the rabbit hole go? Wrong type of dog for that, I suppose.

Fucking hell, I’m so sorry you went through that. Are you and doggie ok?

Big dogs don’t understand fists. You need to understand you’re up against an animal that you’re going to fight to death with. This isn’t a concept we’re generally familiar with in contemporary life. You’re going to get hurt. If you get lucky you’re up against an un-castrated male and enough kicks and knees to the bollocks and stomach as hard as you can it won’t be able to continue. Next best is enough kicks as hard as you can to the stomach and you’ll stop a female. Shove your left forearm in its mouth when it’s going for you and limit its damage to you in that area and just don’t stop with the kicks and knees as hard as you can. This is basic RAF and police training, but that dog is going to try and fuck you up with no conscience and you need to understand that when preserving yourself, your dog or your kids. Whenever anyone’s dog is near my kids in the park I’m cool and collected so my kids know that it’s ok to be around dogs and how to treat them, but I’m 100% ready to suddenly get stuck in and kill the dog if I need to.

I appreciate that sounds fucked up, but I grew up in the pit bull generation and I grew up with big ‘family’ dogs as house guards. You do not fuck about, the dog dies in your hands or you or your kids or pets die.

I’m sorry to hear what happened to you and Otto, Dibble. I know of another case where a male bodybuilder’s dog was attacked by a Pitbull overseas, and he nearly lost a hand when it latched onto him. He’s some 80-90kg of iron-hardened muscle and bone, and he says it took all his strength to pin the dog and choke it out with its collar, and he also had injured nerves from that. Well done on saving your dog.

Unarmed, one would probably stand a better chance against the rugby player than a dogo without a collar: tiny vs zero chance of outrunning them, blunt force vs cutting and tearing, likely a minimal degree of self-control once they’ve won vs …

Hard to outrun a dog. You do not stand a chance running away from a big dog. It runs faster than you and as soon as you’ve got 40+ kg of dog on your back you don’t stand a chance. I ran away from a dogue de Bordeaux once and luckily had a wall to dive over to get away. It got me by the foot but if it wasn’t for the wall it would’ve fucking savaged me.

Precisely.

Wait, Turner and Hooch was real?

Otto has healed well physically and as importantly hasn’t developed any fear of or aggression to other dogs. I worked on socialising him once he was up and about again.
I spent a few days picking Road dirt out of my knees, not a novel experience for most of us.

I think we do need to discuss this as a country, without emotion, I’m going to keep calling them fighting dogs just as I call Labradors retrievers.
I would propose a Dog Liscence for all dogs above 30kg or of a type bred for fighting. This would be based on the presumption that they are legal to own and the liscencing authority has to show you are unsuitable. It would include a DBS check.
For really large dogs there might be a second category that would include a report from your Doctor.

As we were driving Otto to be stitched up we got to the end of Leigham Court Road at the junction with Streatham High Road (A23) the car in front slowed for the red light then just rolled through it not giving a fuck.
There’s no point if we don’t actively police laws.

I probably don't know enough to give a properly formed opinion, but the current law strikes me as a pretty vibes based bit of legislation so on principle I don't have an issue with it's repeal. However, that link doesn't give any details on the proposed alternative or how you then control for an influx of breaders (responsible or irresponsible) from flooding the market to owners (clueless or cunts).

Basic Googling shows that dog bites come from a range of dogs. For e.g these figs compiled by an insurance company from Merseyside Police.

1. Jack Russell
   
2. Staffordshire Bull Terrier
   
3. Pitt Bull Terrier
   
4. German Shepherd
   
5. Rottweiler
   
   

The wiki page on deaths unsurprisingly shows that the dogs that kill humans tend to be powerful dogs originally bread for fucking livings things up.

... so I guess I return to my original point that I doubt many owners can control a powerful dog on a mission. So I'd also be inclined to licence certain dogs based on some sort of weight and power formula.

Good post.

There’s no point if we don’t actively police laws.

Yeah and this all day.

^ and that's actually a real problem in Tory Britain. Was listening to the radio yesterday and on the news they're talking about how the police are so underfunded high streets are becoming looting zones where shoplifting is essentially unpunished and unenforced

It is ok though, braveman said this is a thing of the past. Sorted

We've joined forces with [...] The Kennel Club

Anyone that puts there oar in with that bunch of mutant breeding fucks deserves the boot.

If anyone ever says to you to just stick a finger up a fighting dogs bum good luck

You just need to practice more, obvs.

Jokes aside, that's fucking terrifying.

I'm sure I'm not alone in being a hero in my own head when it comes to fighting off dogs, yet blithely unprepared for what it is actually like in real life.

I've written about it on here before somewhere but my uncle had a very similar experience when a Pitbull attacked his Alsatian, getting it round the neck.
My uncle is not a small bloke, goes to the gym, is pretty solid. Started punching the Pitbull with everything and it didn't flinch.
He did the same thing, full hand under the collar and put his full weight into it until it passed out and let go.
The owner of the Pitbull was a woman who would have weighed less than the dog

unpunished and unenforced

For which read 'legalised'.

I've only met a couple of XLs, both of which were lovely, though one was 4 mths old and already bigger than my shepherd mongrel, and the lad was having a hard job keeping it under control as it was bouncing around being friendly. Really don't see why people feel there is any need to breed a dog that big and powerful*. Can't see how it's good for anyone, including the dog. Is it really just as simple as the strength of the cunt gene?

*don't see why anyone needs to breed a dog full stop when there's a planet full of excellent strays that need help, but that's another argument.

Really don't see why people feel there is any need to breed a dog that big and powerful

For looking well 'ard. Any other reason given is a lie. Like riding brakeless (just to keep us vaguely on brand).

I remember years ago somebody on here suggesting that if a dog attacks you, grab it's front paws and spread them apart to break their ribs or sternum or something. Oh how I laughed.

I think the whole shoplifting thing is mostly a right-wing talking point trying to garner support for more punitive legislation, at least it was in USA, that said

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-66706656

(And for USA; https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/02/is-shoplifting-surging-panic-crime-policy.html )

grab it's front paws and spread them apart to break their ribs or sternum or something.

So its jaws are right in your face? Sounds sensible.

Precisely, I see zero flaws. It'll work just like that time I poked a shark in the eye.

Actually, I watched The Meg the other day, spoiler alert, that one works.

I’ve added Climb on top of the nearest SUV to my planned options if it happens again.
I like the idea of standing on some cunts Range Rover whilst some other cunts dog tries to scramble up the side.

The video of the Bully cross breed thing losing its shit and attacking someone in a petrol station is properly something else.