In the news

West Brom kicking off... >>>>>>>>>>>

They're used to it. Happens every time they concede a goal...

has it properly started to kick off or precautionary?

Precautionary.

konijn - Text from my brother in Nottm, nothing at all happening there. Reckons Forest v County tonight will be more of a problem.

I'll stop with the hearsay, won't help.

sorry.
Magnets are beyond my scope of understanding.

you're soooo middle class.

Fuck yes!

I buy my running shoes from Runners Need where I have video gait tests done to make sure my over pronation is taken care of.

Guy on Sky News just said: "...Youths are attracted to crime.....like a magnet..."
Someone care to explain please?

Shit, if it's magnets we won't have a chance.

these journos were never youths, they're like some benjamin button types who go through life backwards

They're used to it. Happens every time they concede a goal...

but we sold carson? surely we can give foster a chance?

Co-Op @ bottom of my road in put closed and the dude in the new bike shop has removed his naff window display..........serious over reaction in Putney.....Peace

Shit, if it's magnets we won't have a chance.

repacks, runs for life, cries uncontrollably

A lot of people on here don't seem to understand how law and order in our society works, or doesn't work in this case.

It works because people consent to be governed, and accept the rule of law.

Well said.

Guy on Sky News just said: "...Youths are attracted to crime.....like a magnet..."
Someone care to explain please?

magnets ... how the f**k do they work?

^^ damo where are you?

^ i forgot how childish students could be

magnets ... how the f**k do they work?

All I know is that two 'negatives' won't work. You'll need one 'positive' to attract the 'negative'. Innit?

^ i forgot how childish students could be

I posted this for your chuckles

All I know is that two 'negatives' won't work. You'll need one 'positive' to attract the 'negative'. Innit?

Nah, it resonates with the quantum energy fluctuations of your soul. true story.

ABBA right back.

a lot of people on here don't seem to understand how law and order in our society works, or doesn't work in this case.

It works because people consent to be governed, and accept the rule of law. That is why we don't have armed cops, or a particularly large police force.

What we are seeing right now is that a large group of people have withdrawn their consent to be governed, and are not respecting the rule of law. If this group is sufficiently large, as we have seen, the existing forces of law may not have the numbers to restore order.

We can postulate various ways in which the imbalance of forces can be altered in the short-term so that order can be restored (water cannon, more police, paramilitarising the police, using the army, paramilitarising sections of the civil population), but unless we figure out why such a large group of people have withdrawn (however temporarily, spuriously or irrationally) their consent to be governed, and take steps to remedy it, this will all happen again, and we will be forced to warehouse large numbers of people in prison, rather as the us has done.

Using the prison system to control people who have no stake in main-stream society, as has been shown in the us, does not work on any level, economically, socially or ethically, especially in view of the recidivism rates.

I don't think it's helpful to present the case as either condemn or understand. You can both condemn the actions, and try to understand the circumstances that lead to the actions.

heavily repped!

Nah, it resonates with the quantum energy fluctuations of your soul. true story.

I'll buy that. It's magnets, anything makes sense.

Went out and did a 60 mile ride. Got back and tried to catch up with what is going on. It's taken me over an hour to read this thread and seven additional pages of posts have appeared while I have been reading.

Summary:

Plenty of rumour; not a lot else and let's hope it stays that way.

Anyway, Parliament is back on Thursday and so it will so be sorted.

Pasting info from a companywide e-mail I just received. Feel free to ignore or consider as "allegedly". BUT, my employer is pretty extreme on security in general, (we sell some of the priciest stuff around) so their info is worth considering.

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bla bla .... an updated list of transport that has been affected and current road closures as of 4.15pm (BST). Please plan your journey home accordingly. .... bla bla ....official updates from local police ...

Areas affected in London:
Barking: Station Parade, Barking Road, Ripple Road
Brent: Kilburn High Road
Bromley: High Street
Croydon: London Road, Canterbury Road, Croydon station, Warrington Road, Duppas Hill Road, Montacute Road
Camden: Chalk Farm Road, Ferdinand Street, Castlehaven Road
Clapham: Clapham Junction, Lavender Hill, Falcon Road
Dalston: Shacklewell Lane
East Dulwich: East Dulwich Road
Ealing: Haven Green park, Madeley Road
Enfield: Solar Way
Hackney: Pembury Estate, Bethnal Green Road, Cambridge Heath Road, Vallance Road, Mare Street, Clapton Common, Royal Docks, Goulton Road
Ilford: High Road
Lewisham: High Street, Walworth Road
Newham: Stratford High Street, North Woolwich
Notting Hill: Westbourne Grove and Portobello Road
Peckham: High Street
Sutton: High Street, Carshalton Road
Tower Hamlets: Mile End
Wood Green: High Road
Woolwich: Wellington Street, Woolwich High Street, Church Street
West Norwood: Norwood Road

Buses: Buses fully withdrawn from Peckham, Woolwich and Lewisham; dozens of other routes affected across London

Tube:
Bond Street station is closed. Services running normally, partial closure of District and Circle lines.

London Tramlink:
Services on route 3 between East Croydon and Wandle Park (both Croydon) have been suspended due to a fire at Reeves Corner

DLR Rail:
Suspended between King George V and Woolwich Arsenal

Left to right: T.O.M.B., superprecise, stringerman, CoppiThat...

I posted this for your chuckles

that's sweet. i chuckled.

It works because people consent to be governed, and accept the rule of law.

"The Sovereign, having no force other than the legislative power, acts only by means of the laws; and the laws being solely the authentic acts of the general will, the Sovereign cannot act save when the people is assembled.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Contract#cite_note-1"][/URL]"
It's like all Rousseauian Social Contract shit etc....