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This afternoon still really just kicks the can down the road, doesn't it?

And was that the start of self-annointed Brexit Hard Man, Steve Baker's bid for the leadership?

He had issues with a US tax bill which led to him giving up his citizenship

Nah, wasn't thinking of that. Thats what led to him giving up his US citizenship (as well as the optics of running for PM while being a US citizen).

Could have sworn that it was reported that he was late on a tax return payment and had to enter into an individual arrangement with HMRC. Finding it hard to google so lets just assume I'm talking bollocks.

This afternoon still really just kicks the can down the road, doesn't it?

I think the hope/plan that Labour has is that kicking the can down the road just extends the period in which the Torys will be bleeding out.

I think Labour were hoping to expose the divisions in the Conservative Party over this issue, ahead of the local elections. Which they've done in spades.

Corbyn was fined once for late filing of his self assessment and the Tories made a deal of how it showed he wasn't "strong and stable leadership" material. Could that be what your thinking of?

Hardman Steve already said Boris should go if he broke the law

He said the Prime Minister “must go” if it is found he broke the law or lied to Parliament, but said “we are all waiting” for senior civil servant Sue Gray to publish her inquiry’s findings.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/steve-baker-boris-johnson-downing-street-prime-minister-theresa-may-b1997427.html?amp

20 Jan

My MP stated yesterday that he’d vote against. Today he raised no objections.

Add spinelessness to his lengthening charge sheet

Although perhaps he was swayed by the self-righteous email I sent last night….

You're not wrong, I did vaguely recall this, that it have been chased and he finally paid it off.

Nah, wasn't thinking of that. Thats what led to him giving up his US citizenship (as well as the optics of running for PM while being a US citizen).

High net worth individuals can't just dump their US citizenship. They need to effective buy their way out of it by paying ~10% of their net worth (it's negotiable). It's either that or never be able to visit the US ever again (which would be untenable for a PM or former PM) without special dispensation (probably available for a serving PM). That was the "US tax bill" he had to pay (along with the capital gains on primary residence stuff).

I went to look for an article on the, which in turn lead me to his full name.

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

You're not wrong, I did vaguely recall this, that it have been chased and he finally paid it off.

Turns out that you get a lot of results if you google "Boris Johnson fine" in 2022. :D

Anyway, its unimportant.

I went to look for an article on the, which in turn lead me to his full name.

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

And his original family name? Kemal.

His Great Grandmother changed his grandfather's name from Kemal to Johnson afer he was bullied at school for having a Turkish surname while Britiain was at war with Turkey iirc.

I went to look for an article on the, which in turn lead me to his full name.

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

It's why if you read articles that feature interviews with people who know him they refer to him as Alex - "Boris" is a character he plays in public, not the actual person they know.

Not sure why people get so het up on names. It's not as if he chose it himself (nor much of his schooling). Loads of people have funny middle names, many are family names that are passed on. Loads of people I know aren't known by their given first name. Meh.

But, back to Boris, it's not as if there isn't a metric fuckload of evidence of how much of a disgrace of a human being he is that people have to resort to ad hominems.

They charge capital gains on the sale of your primary residence, which is can be quite a lot of money.

Yeah - this is a right pain in the bum as someone married to a dual citizen.

Not sure why people get so het up on names.

Anybody actually getting het up on names? So far two people (including me) have made factual statements about names, but neither have expressed an opinion. And nobody, other than you, has responded to comment with an opinion.

Come on now you two

Genuinely wasn't being pissy. I've just never heard somebody rip on Johnson for his name before. Didn't realise it was a bone of contention.

That computer shyster he was shagging had him in their phone as 'Alex the Great', which is informative about both of them.

The reason his name has some sort of import is how demonstrative it is of him being just another on the production line of posh, entitled, out-of-touch, greed, shark-eyed twats, but playing a charming, lovable, bumbling character - who some people still believe in, fuck knows why.

Anybody actually getting het up on names?

People have and do, yes, possibly even here I can't be bothered to search for it. It was more of a general comment.

If it had been anyone here I would have replied to their post rather than a general post in the thread.

Inbuilt deference.

My ex miner 87 year old Grandad said something along the lines of 'who am I to question someone much more intelligent than me' about Mogg of all fucking people.

I dont think that a lot of people realise the whole system is stacked against them by said posh twats.

I know I shouldn't be surprised as a number of them are my family, but how the fuck can 33% of the country still plan to vote for this shower of cunts?

Because they've been brainwashed into thinking that the alternative is worse.

Stuart Lee -

"Boris in-All-Frankness Pays-Fixed-Penalty Unreserved-Apology Anger-and-Frustration Birthday-Exemption Poledancing-Cyberlover Wallpaper-Freeloader Lebedev’s-Party Watermelon-Picaninny Tank-Topped-Bum-Boys Deprogramme-a-Transperson Fifty-Pound-Offender Dead-in-the-Water Vaccine-Rollout All-Purpose-Get-Out Johnson."