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Doesn't quite feel right to be dismissing somebody with 15+ years of catering and hotel work experience (before taking over the family business) as "posh bird" either.
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In Europe, a lot of young people have part-time jobs from around the age of 16, so when they come over at 18 or 20 they have already got quite a bit of work experience.
For whatever reason there has been a shift in the UK with teenagers much less likely to have part-time jobs these days than they would 20-30 years ago. Part of that might be because there is a lot more pressure at school than there used to be. I think that is bad all round.
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I do wonder how much this is supply (they don't want to do the jobs) and how much demand (employers prefer more professional, mostly non-UK workforce with skills not nervous 16 y/os)?
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Alternatively;
employers prefer cheaper, mostly non-UK workforce
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Also, it depends on your job/workplace doesn’t it. If you’re paid by the hour then employers should pay for the time it takes to get ready to do the work and schedule handovers/etc appropriately. Once you enter the workplace it’s no longer your time and your employer makes demands on you, so they can pay for it.
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Maybe footballers and carers could swap salaries. I’d wipe an arse for £50k a week.
The fact remains people won’t do that job for the pittance they’re expected to accept as a salary. Being a carer looks like a horrendous job, for fuck all money and benefits.
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It really amazes me that you’ve worked in hospitality for that long and that’s the only perspective you want to see on this.
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Ah yes, if us EU immigrants would never have been able to come here, the UK would have been a paradise of great wages.
Better if we had not existed at all to annoy the natives.
I've no sympathy for the places that underpay people, or the "Brits are lazy" BS, sometimes you cannot find people locally but moving costs money, so that isn't going to happen on poverty wages.
And some business will get wiped out if everyone gets £10.50 an hour, OK, that is perhaps not so bad. Or is it? A low wage topped up by UC is still better than... just UC.
So what do you do then? Hm there could be tons of work in insulating houses, and that will be local too right now, there are enough UK properties that need done up. But there's f all coordination there. You need the training to begin with.
Care Work being in a crisis because not everybody has a budget to pay more! Sure, some places do pay more now as it was just a case of greedy owners, but if you get government money only for yourself or most of the people you need to take care of, there IS NO MONEY.
The media optics of this are often "haha greedy employers" (totally) is usually skimming over the fuckery experience by EU immigrants (treating the country too much like our own) and central government just...doing f all/making it worse with their kack handed care funding plan.
Because it was all "exploitation" as if people didn't also come out of their free will (again, low wages are not OK!)
End of rant, have a good day, tip the staff always.
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Working in hotels as a young UK national doesn't really stack up most of the time.
I did it once in the conference centre part of a hotel at the end of the uni year. The reason I did it was because it my exams ended early and I still had time on my tenancy and mates around. It was available and not fulltime so did it for a bit before going home and getting a better fulltime summer job.
My overriding feeling was why would you bother? Longer more unsociable hours than bars/restaurants with the same pay, but no tips and less cool/fun. Obviously not as hard physically as labouring, but still pretty hard whereas labouring paid much better. If you've got the options and access to office admin jobs, then not only did they pay better, they were easier and had more sociable hours.
Conversely, if you want to improve your English, get UK work experience and bank money while spending little it does stack up. Especially if you can get free accommodation.
Looking back now it was telling that the young UK people working there (as opposed to people going into it as a career) were all from around Newport where I guess employment opportunities were much more limited than say Cardiff or Swansea.
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Slow day at work? If so i'm interested to hear people's take on this
Get rid or save our blessed country's history?
Through work i'm familiar with both sides of the coin, promoting low energy more sustainable lighting and also sometimes working with heritage to protect older stuff. Personally i'd like to see them saved as offsetting 300 gas columns shouldn't be difficult if Westminster sorted some of the many other crappy lighting schemes they manage.
Of course the best way to save them would be to tweet "forrinerrs trying to steal our queens light posts" and then watch UK's finest arrive to defend them.
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They're not some ancient relic, it's just a street lamp
This. Put the very first one in a museum or whatever but get rid.
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Wow this is intersting
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Had to Google, but great news. Stupid CNN called them a "cult teen brand." Jesus. Lush is about as established high street as you get. Good on them.
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He'd lost the ampersands before the tracking stuff.
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I don’t think it is myth though. I think the people who are motivated enough to travel to foreign countries and find work will, on average, be more motivated people than those who are just looking for p/t work in their local town.
Obviously there will be exceptions and that doesn’t mean your daughter doesn’t work hard!
I think catering is an area where it is really apparent who is working hard and who is just working to clock or less skilled - the fact it is described as an unskilled industry really grates, to me, as I think there is a huge amount of skill to do it well.
Isn’t it also a bit of a generalisation to say ‘middle class people don’t get what working class people do’? I would say I’m middle class, i worked in hotels and bars for 15 yrs…