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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/15/conservative-mp-peter-amess-stabbed-in-essex-attack

^ Twitter full of twats blaming Angela Rayner for calling the Tories scum.

wOrDs HAveE CoNSEquENCES!

The state of the world.

paging @chrisbmx116

Peter Amess has died.

Dogging is car based not audience based.

Where is Stan Collymore when you need him?

Walking the dog

Peter Amess has died

In before the BBC. Good work.

David Amess

One of the first to alert us to the dangers of Cake.

Regardless of my political leanings and thoughts around the state of our democracy, no one deserves this.

Agreed

Attacks on politicians are attacks on democracy itself.
Several federal candidates in Canada withdrew over safety concerns.

widely respected, dedicated and decent

It really doesn't matter which political party you follow, this is very sad reading indeed. Especially so when carrying out public duty at his constituency surgery.

RIP Sir David Amess MP

Yes, party politics doesn't come into this. RIP.

I think people that are against the rights of other people are despicable.. but they don't deserve to get murdered

RIP

decent

Pretty sure his voting record stands as evidence against this.

It’s tragic that he is dead, and I feel very sorry for his family, but we can agree this is wrong without having to pretend like he was a good person.

That irked me too, suddenly they’re amazing person when they’re not, but what else can they says when this horrible incident happened?

“We are sorry to lose him, he was an ok staff, a bit shit on time management tho”.

Don’t be silly, the BBC will have him canonised by the end of the weekend.

I'm sure I'd disagree with most of his voting record, too, if I looked at it, but that's of no importance in light of the fact that, as with Jo Cox, it's the murder of an MP. As we all know, 'democracy' isn't perfect/very good/etc., but it's still a hell of a lot better than Trumpism or Orbanism or Lukashenkism or [insert dictator of your choice]ism. As with the attack on the Capitol, murdering MPs attacks something that we must not lose to illiberal dictatorship, no matter how flawed it is.

MPs are one of the more vulnerable parts of the existing order. Likewise, some of the Capitol attackers had in mind that they wanted to kill members of Congress if they could find them, which fortunately they didn't. As a historical side note, people sometimes claim that the Nazis came to power in Germany 'legally', i.e. by keeping to the constitution and laws. This is not true. Among the many illegal and violent things they did was massive intimidation of MPs.

For all these reasons, one should condemn violence against MPs unequivocally, regardless of their political party.

Agreed, but you can condemn political violence without lapsing into hagiography

Agreed.. the usual lazy thinking and baseless moralism has reared its ugly face on this thread.. again..

Raging Brexiteer, member of the ERG. RIP but fuck the man's politics

Also introduced anti animal cruelty legislation and warm homes which made a big impact of fuel poverty

People are complicated shrugs

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/weve-faced-threats-having-throats-21856193

Manchester Evening News website is terrible, it’s all ads, pop-ups and a tiny window to read the news on.