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• #62027
We've got some of those road closures near us. Some of our neighbours are totally fuming over it. Saying things like it prevents disabled people from being able to drive to the shops. Despite the fact that only one end of the road is blocked and you can still park in the disabled bays across the road as before. People are really really sensitive to traffic flow changes!
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• #62028
I support filtering, and while I imagine some (not at all all) will be using this sort of argument disingenuously, there is certainly a case to be made for impact assessments for disabled people, especially people with mobility difficulties. The test under the Equality Act (and before under the Disability Discrimination Acts) is whether a measure causes additional and unreasonable hardship for disabled people (I'm undoubtedly not quoting the correct legal terminology, but that's the gist of it), as changes like this can be disproportionately tough for them.
Say you're a wheelchair user and you can't use local shops because they tend to be too small, and you don't have a helper to do your shopping for you; in that case, you may well rely on driving to a larger supermarket with wide aisles and better access. If (which after a settling-in period I don't believe will persist) filtering means that you have to spend much longer driving to places, that can seriously affect your independence, and there may be a disproportionate impact.
Now, as above, arguments like this are sometimes used disingenuously, but often sincerely, too, and one must always keep in mind that many people see driving as something very positive and/or necessary, and many people, often those of whom you might not expect it, will also immediately, and quite genuinely, think of the impact on others, not on themselves. Quite apart from people fuming with rage, there are often very reasonable points made by people.
I think these issues can and should be addressed, but there is often justified case for complaint, because many, quite possibly most, filtering schemes are ill-conceived, largely because officers doing them have never thought about filtering before, and in the present cases because it's all a bit rushed and without any input from local knowledge. Local people usually know important things that officers can't come up with by means of a desktop study.
tl;dr I hope filtering succeeds, but there's more thinking to do, and some of the schemes I've seen really are very bad, sadly (including the one in my own area).
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• #62029
I've been enjoying some of the stories the outraged people of Crystal Palace have been sharing on FB. 'My 10 minute journey to the station now takes 25 minutes', 'I order a takeaway and it was cold when it was delivered, because the drive was stuck in traffic'
My fave so far is 'I missed a gym class, I left at my normal time but because of the traffic I'd missed half it', from the same person who posted in the some thread about how long here journey from Penge to Crystal Palace took.
I do feel for the people who are massively impacted, but some people just can't see past their need for a car for small journeys.
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• #62031
These are all interesting points to consider, but it's worth noting that car ownership and usage is even lower among people with disabilities than the general population. Interesting to consider whether someone with a disability moving into an area with modal filtering could successfully appeal to have it taken out on the basis that it creates a disproportionate impact on them
Also worth pointing out that the argument about being able to drive to large shops is directly contrary to the other argument about local businesses (i.e., the kind that you walk to) suffering from LTNs.
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• #62032
London’s New Year’s Eve firework display has been cancelled
The mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has confirmed that London’s New Year’s Eve firework display will not be taking place this year. Khan added he is working on an alternative event that people will be able to enjoy from their homes. -
• #62033
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• #62034
I like the way it went from cock-and-balls to gigantic cat poo
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• #62035
I thought it was going to be this video:-
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• #62036
'I missed a gym class, I left at my normal time but because of the traffic I'd missed half it'
Putting on your gym kit and running shoes at home and making it to the gym on foot is for the plebs, it's not the sort of exercise you can brag about.
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• #62037
Strava has walking segments. You could be KOM for them!
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• #62038
When I was at junior school my dad volunteered to help with the annual firework display and managed to set light to the whole box holding the display, which included a batch of air bomb repeaters and a couple of depth charges. It probably registered on the Richter Scale when it went off.
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• #62039
I'm in the middle of a massively unpopular LTN at the moment, rushed in and generating massive amounts in fines using ANPR I would think. It has been nice and quiet on our road but nearby roads have been murder.
Nextdoor has been overwhelmed with complaints!
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• #62040
Has camera enforcement already started? In most places, they plonked the filters in and put up camera enforcement signs but didn't have actual cameras yet or didn't enforce yet.
It'll be interesting to see what it does politically. In boroughs with one-party dominance, there probably won't be such massive changes, but in more delicately balanced ones there may well be a change of control (if the Experimental Orders are confirmed and not taken back).
I've started a modal filtering thread:
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/353238/
I've been meaning to write more there, maybe over the week-end.
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• #62041
Just out of curiosity what can you be fined for using ANPR?
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• #62042
I'm in Sands End East - Hammersmith & Fulham. They introduced a scheme featuring 5 cameras. Only Hammersmith and Fulham residents can drive past the cameras. If you are from out of borough and don't have a visitors permit from a borough resident you get a fine.
There should be a lot of information out there about it but it's a pretty toxic debate in this neighbourhood right now!
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• #62043
Check out Sands End East LTN.
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• #62045
It's been used as a term in the discussion but I agree with you it's not the first use that comes to mind.
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• #62046
He tries on being super wealthy and it isn't for him, so gives away billions to live in a rented apartment in old age
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• #62047
meanwhile elsewhere:
Wealth of US billionaires rises by nearly a third during pandemic
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• #62048
Feudalism.
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• #62049
Boris Johnson flew to Perugia Airport, says the airport press office.
He didn’t, says No 10.
All sorts of implications re his Russian contacts are attached to this one.
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• #62050
the bbc has exposed links between close putin allies and tory party donations in their new money laundering investigation that broke last night
Fucking cycle nazis