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• #53202
New Statesman were wondering the same thing in 2015 https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/12/chris-grayling-most-incompetent-member-government
The ultimate turd that won't flush -
• #53203
Absolutely not. The only thing he seems to be good at is dodging responsibility.
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• #53205
Wrong thread, thought I'd leave it to confuse future archaelogists
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• #53207
How much tax would the government want from sales of recreational cannabis?
The going rate is currently £10 per gramme which, were you to account for the ordinary running costs of a legitimate business, doesn't leave much room for a product specific tax.
Considering the well-established illegal infrastructure, the public's attitude (it's normalised for a large part of it) and that recreational use is a low-priority for the police, then legal cannabis won't justify being considerably more expensive.
A good quality, efficient set-up for two plants using a commercial grade LED light will cost you around £700 and has the footprint of a wardrobe. Using feminised, automatically flowering seeds you will be cropping every three months and even a complete novice could produce 500g...
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• #53208
Industrial farming techniques will, I suspect, prove to be somewhat more efficient than growing plants in ones loft, hence a lower overall cost of production will be realised.
A lot of the cannabis sold in the UK is already farmed "industrially", using the same tech as commercial growers of legitimate crops.
So it's already efficient and any economies of scale, would be dwarfed by actually having to pay for electricity and no longer being able to use enslaved illegal immigrants etc.
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• #53209
Well that's a good point about slavery and other exploitation: Legalization with some sort of "fair trade" cannabis mark and letting us grow our own means that may potentially reduce?
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• #53210
Interesting economic point about stolen power and stolen labour, I am not entirely confident in your assertion that LED lights in a wardrobe can’t be beaten for efficiency however.
I also suspect that the distribution logistics would be lower cost for a legal operation.
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• #53211
Certainly, but only if it is cheap enough to make the illicit trade unprofitable.
Considering what's at stake, I can see the price being dropped to below whatever the legal market is set at: the illegal profit margin is huge, so there's plenty of leeway.
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• #53212
You have to remember that it's only the crop, and not the method, that's illegal (in this country): advances in technology and technique made by legal farmers are freely available to the illegal one. And the Netherlands is a world leader in growing under artificial conditions...
The growing process can be largely automated, requiring only a low level of monitoring and maintenance, so whilst a professional operation will be more disciplined than a "hobby" grow, I can't see much room for improvement.
The cost of distribution was slashed some years ago, with the shift from hashish being smuggled from Afghanistan and North Africa to domestically produced "herbal" cannabis. So distribution costs now amount to a couple of heavies in a Range Rover. :)
A significant cost to any legal industry is likely to be security. If growing illegally is no longer profitable, then those heavies in the Range will just hijack the legal crop.
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• #53213
Has any of that happened in the legal states in America?
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• #53214
When a crop above a local chip shop was raided and taken away they booted the door in and left all the hydroponic stuff . Needless to say all that got stolen before the place could be made secure !!
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• #53215
When she began dating Geraint, her loved ones gave the cyclist the
nickname "King D***" because they didn't see much of her when he was
around.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6886186/who-geraint-thomas-wife-sara-elen-pair-married/
I have some questions.
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• #53216
I remember reading a few years ago that the kale fad was driven by producers gearing up for the legalisation of cannabis.
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• #53217
Also WTF. British lads abroad in massive twats shocker
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• #53218
On the face of it, this looks like a really bad decision unless I'm missing something.
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• #53219
Ffs. All the navel gazing middle class me me me shite they pay cunts to write and they're scrapping the only truly worthwhile coverage they do...
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• #53220
What a bunch of cunts.
I hope their wedding is a disaster, if the bride hasn't already dumped the prick when she heard about it.
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• #53221
maybe interesting for this thread, as there has been a discussion on medical/legal cannabis.
TL:DR market forces and having to inspect growers can't be ignored.In the USA many growers from minorities/poorer areas were also excluded as they were already caught "illegally" growing cannabis. So that means a previous offense and no license for them...
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• #53222
I am hoping the same, he gets dumped and wedding cancelled.
But I fear this will instead me one of the things referenced in the best man’s speech.
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• #53223
"It was literally so jokes..."
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• #53224
So Yaxley-Lennon has won a challenge to his (admitted) contempt of court conviction down to process. Stand by for the army of cunts to claim it is some kind of victory for 'freedom of speech'. Fucksake. I hope the new judge slaps him with the same sentence (or a bigger one), incorrigible racist cunt that he is.
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• #53225
100% they will celebrate this as common sense prevailing and them being correct along, serving to reinforce thier views
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