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  • @boristrump While I'm no fan of Osborne, the fact the author was editor of Indy + fired by Lebedev just before Osborne arrived at ES does colour it somewhat.

  • I recall throwing eggs at this cunt in Ramsgate when he brought Thatcher down to stick up for him when he'd been caught for perjury. I also recall knowing friends of his daughter and hearing stories that he'll be praying forever don't come out:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/29/jonathan-aitken-back-at-the-old-bailey-this-time-as-a-jail-chaplain

  • This has wound me right up this morning, NHS England to stop 'ineffective' treatments.
    I suffered from two of these over the last three years (severe back pain, tonsillitis, before any asks how the breast reduction surgery went...) and it is bullshit that they will give you treatment if you make an individual request. I demanded to be referred to a back pain specialist for 9 months before my GP gave in and did, and the problem got solved in 5mins. I’ve since discovered that GP’s are incentivised to not refer patients for things like MRIs because it saves their budgets. The tonsillitis I’ve suffered from for over half my life, literally monthly visits to the GP, dose after dose of antibiotics which “won’t do much because it’s viral.” Then why are you prescribing it then, dickhead? I was only referred to an ENT specialist because I threatened to report my GP and had to make the overly dramatic statement “I don’t think I can live much longer like this...”

    This is now. When this bollocks comes in, people are going to suffer unnecessarily because they’re too polite to be pushy about it, for what amounts to a minor cost saving exercise.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44665560

  • It’s a disgrace. They’ve already blur back too far.

    I’ve got a neighbour who needs a knee replacement. He lives on the 3rd floor in my building and doesn’t have the option to move. It currently takes him fifteen minutes to make it up or down the three flights of stairs. The NHS won’t operate on him because he’s not in enough pain to justify it. How fucked is that?

  • I can totally relate to your tonsillitis situation. I used to be in the same boat with monthly severe throat infections. NHS wouldn’t operate so I had a private tonsillectomy. It was life changing. I haven’t been sick since.

  • I have had the ineffective operation of removing my tonsils causing me to never have tonsillitis again and a friend had an ineffective breast reduction as well changing her life and no longer having back issues.

    Who is the cunt that came up with this shit and where do I send sausages?

  • Worst British Ministers of the Crown (1945-2018):

    1. You
    2. Can't
    3. Compare
    4. Ministers'
    5. Records
    6. Across
    7. Departments
    8. And
    9. Over
    10. Time
    11. They
    12. Had
    13. To
    14. Face
    15. Wildly
    16. Different
    17. Circumstances
    18. And
    19. Briefs
    20. Chris Grayling
  • in Scotland so perhaps different, but I got told to get a tonsillectomy I had to have "chronic tonsillitis" which was defined as 7 times or more in a 12 month period. I'd get it about 6 times a year, so one month in two I'd have a week or two of fucking agony, and the scar tissue on my tonsils kept increasing so the bouts became more and more painful. There was never any of this "oh, you could self refer, didn't you know?" malark.

    On the seventh time I fucking ran to the GP and demanded they get removed-was about 25 at this point-which they dutifully did, and not bothered me since.

    Fucking stupid rule blindly enforced by people that should know better.

  • This is what pissed me off the most, the red-flag, box ticking, exactly by the book diagnosing that GPs do.
    I was getting this monthly, and telling the GP “I have this every month, I am here every month” but that didn’t fit the criteria for referral.
    I had to say, to the letter, “I have had this 12 times this year”

    Every month ≠ 12 times a year.

  • having been dealing with ongoing Lyme infection for the last two years and forced to treat myself outside of the NHS, I have few good things to say about them and am surprised to hear from nurses and other staff I've routinely seen that they themselves have experienced the exact same indifference couched in kafkaesque rules and processes.

    One phlebotomist had been told she was just stressed/depressed for two years in trying to get treatment for a digestive problem. Offered antidepressants and made to feel she was crazy. One endoscopy from a sympathetic locum nurse was all it took to diagnose quite an obvious stomach ulcer. Fancy a digestive problem coming from the digestive system! How outlandish. If the NHS's own staff can't get decent treatment what chance do the rest of us have?

    GPs and Infectious diseases consultants are all smug, useless, indifferent pricks in my experience.

  • Did you ever get a diagnosis privately?

  • yeah, got blood tests done by two labs in Belgium and Germany-fully EU accredited-and a specialist in Switzerland.

    NHS won't accept them as apparently if you pay for private tests they'll "tell you anything you want to hear".

    Given the number of NHS doctors doing private work that's a bare-faced lie.

  • Bet he breathed a large sigh of relief.

  • Further anecdotes on NHS trying to cut costs on the sly, my sister recently had her second child. She requested a home water birth so would require 2 midwives, she had previously been told that when she goes into labour and phones up they would insist she comes in to the hospital or midwives unit. True enough, she goes in to labour, husband phones up and is told she will have to come in as no midwives available, her husband told them they'll just do it on their own at home. 5 minutes later, they were phoned back saying midwives on the way. Supposedly there had only been 8 home births that year in the area (Soham, Cambridgeshire).

    Up in Aberdeenshire where I live, was speaking to some nurses over the weekend who work in a care home in Banchory, they currently have 8 residents and plenty of room for more, they have heard through friends that folk in the hospital are being told there is no care home places for them, all seems a bit suspicious to me.

  • She requested a home water birth so would require 2 midwives, she had previously been told that when she goes into labour and phones up they would insist she comes in to the hospital or midwives unit.

    Probably more about the intense pressure on the NHS to get the fatality rate down than saving money but the later probably comes in to it

  • Wish I could be water birthed. Sounds great.

    I just flopped out then pissed all over the doctor's face when he held me up to get a look at what kind of tackle I was packing.

    They do say you should start as you mean to continue...

  • Our little terror was. He immediately peed too, presumably to mark his territory

  • The NHS great in an emergency but an utter shambles for long term treatment. 2yrs down the road and my wife is still waiting for an answer to a heart issue she may or may not have depending on which specialist she sees. In the 2yrs see has seen 5 specialist none of which can agree on what the issue could be or what course of action to take, been for 6 ultrasound's twice she went to the hospital to find then it had not actually been booked, the best one was when there was a mix up and she had the results of another lady whose initials were the same but with a 30 year age difference. A lot of the issue she has faced has been admin and the amount of time between appointments. She has another appointment in Sept nearly 6 months after the last one.

  • My mum was diagnosed with cancer, she was in and out in two months, all clear touch wood. My brother had to have a toe amputated and was referred to a private consultant. He was treated like shit and was misdiagnosed twice, once he was told it was "all in his head and probably making it up for the attention" - he's severely disabled.

    Not to belittle anyone's experience but the NHS is fucking amazing and we need to resist any attempt to dismantle it.

  • Fucking amazing but rapidly becoming less so.

  • Sorry, but what you're saying does belittle a lot of people's experiences. One good result for one person doesn't excuse a bad result for another.

    I can't afford proper private treatment, the NHS refuses to give me any, and I've lost two years of my life and thousands of pounds in money I can't afford to paying for the private testing and meds that have just kept me afloat. Some people in worse situations than me can't even afford this and are left on the scrap heap.

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