In the news

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/oct/29/american-express-travel-insurance-policy-axa-bicycle-damage
got to admire the self promotion of one of the commenters

https://www.yellowjersey.co.uk/
anybody ever used them?

Classic left-wing-virtue-signaling Aligning themselves with the oppressed minorities. I'm sure the older folks on the forum will have similar versions of this with Ireland.

@Dammit and @Drano - Even with the last few days events, I'm going to stand my ground and say in the medium to long term this is a very shrewed move from Puigdemont. But to just to clarify, I think the whole thing is generally disastrous for pretty much everyone else.

@Drano - out of curiosity, in your idea scenario what form would an indy Catalonia take? Totally separate with it's own currency, legal system, armed forces, etc.? Would you apply for EU membership?

Yes to all of the above, though ideally the Euro would be maintained with a fast-track entry to the EU. This may well be a pie in the sky considering the European paranoia around breakaway states.

I'd also be happy with an arrangement similar to what the basques have, or even a Spanish Federation, which makes quite a lot of sense on paper.

Re Puigdemont: shrewd because it's stirred up feelings of nationalism and put the issue on the global map? That's true - it will be interesting to see what happens after the December elections if separatist parties are re-elected.

Puigdemont has worked this very well.

To be perfectly honest I don't see how or why you would hold those 3 opinions as to me they appear somewhat contradictory, both Trumpism and Brexit feel like people attaching far more importance to their own wealth and wellbeing than the good of the community/world at large. Catalan independence, from what little knowledge I have, seems to have much of the same motivation.

Because romance (pun absolutely intended).

Out of curiosity, why do you believe in independence in the first place? Identity? Insufficient representation?

There are hundreds of coppers in vans and cars heading out from central through SE London via Greenwich and Trafalgar Road to something big

https://twitter.com/Greenwich1905/status/925427022305906689

https://twitter.com/Mushtees/status/925421279641047040

Currently in the news (MPs)

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/925407047411290114

(The unredacted list has been posted in the replies)

Kwasi Kwarteng puts it about.

Their tea is getting cold ?

the rape allegation is serious. labour better not try and wish this away. that list also features the names of people who are alleged to have had affairs or availed themselves of prostitutes, and as such is nobodies fucking business.

There were more vans and cars than usual parked up outside Kennington nick earlier so potentially some kind of planned operation?

The Sun has picked up on the videos on Twitter but still no news what its related to. Someone speculating about the motorbike groups that head out on Halloween.

Police vans and cars parked up around Kings Hosp./Denmark Hill plus off side streets in Blackheath.

Family Guy clip from 12 years ago yikes

https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/924869139059134464

Shooting and cyclist ramming in New York. Sounds like a few dead. Just spoke to my missus who is out there about to go out 30mins ago. Hopefully in the other direction.

Sadly, as with a lot of these ‘revelations’ recently, lots of people seemed to know it was happening loooong before it gets reported for being wrong.

I know two people who were propositioned and made to feel very uncomfortable by him in the last decade, one of which told me this story was breaking two weeks ago

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41825577

No fatalities yet recorded. Could be worth its own rider down thread though.

:( not sounding good.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/31/new-york-police-shooting-manhattan

Hope your wife isn't caught up in this @villa-ru

Oh, damn :(

Thanks. She hasn't responded to texts but her phone shows her at the theatre where she's meant to be so pretty sure all is good.

Edit - text update all fine NY in a bit of mess.

@villa-ru
glad she is safe

Glad ok. Thoughts with others affected. :(

Thanks. Me too.

Glad she's unhurt.